[Updated] New petrol & diesel car sales banned from 2030
15-10-2017, 18:51
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
In the last 9 years the price of LPG has more than doubled near me!
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16-10-2017, 18:32
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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In the last 9 years the price of LPG has more than doubled near me!
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IIRC it's still half the price of petrol around here but whatever fuel we use you can be sure that any price (or other) incentives HMG offers to get us all to buy into it won't last long. They have to recoup the lost fuel duty from somewhere and charging infrastructure is going to cost a fortune to install and maintain..
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16-10-2017, 20:15
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
The Government are just reacting to where the industry is going. They don't have enough power by themselves to go against the trend
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17-10-2017, 13:42
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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The Government are just reacting to where the industry is going. They don't have enough power by themselves to go against the trend
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Nah. This is being driven first and foremost by Govt. environmental policy and having led us all up the garden path with regard to diesel, they're no doing the same thing with electric. If they could, the car companies would carry on churning out diesels equipped with cheat devices.
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17-10-2017, 14:14
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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Nah. This is being driven first and foremost by Govt. environmental policy and having led us all up the garden path with regard to diesel, they're no doing the same thing with electric. If they could, the car companies would carry on churning out diesels equipped with cheat devices.
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Many companies already announced the move to electric years before the government introduced this 2040 goal. Volvo had even said they've got an end-date for their petrol engines before 2030. Nissan, Toyota, Ford, Peugeot and BMW amongst others are all at various points in this transition. It's why as I said at the start of the thread that the 2040 announcement is rather unambitious.
Not to say it's imminent. The vast majority of cars sold are still petrol and will be so for the next few years but it seems electric is only going to go in one direction as it makes up more and more of those sales. The question is when will we get to 50%....
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17-10-2017, 19:36
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
Only hope the price of electric cars will be reasonable and that the battery tech will improve significantly.
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17-10-2017, 20:19
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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Many companies already announced the move to electric years before the government introduced this 2040 goal. Volvo had even said they've got an end-date for their petrol engines before 2030. Nissan, Toyota, Ford, Peugeot and BMW amongst others are all at various points in this transition. It's why as I said at the start of the thread that the 2040 announcement is rather unambitious.
Not to say it's imminent. The vast majority of cars sold are still petrol and will be so for the next few years but it seems electric is only going to go in one direction as it makes up more and more of those sales. The question is when will we get to 50%....
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Being relatively young I'm sure 2040 seems like a lifetime away for you but it really isn't much time to get stuff done and it's no good praying that there'll be some timely revolution in technology which will obviate the need for hugely costly national charging infrastructure to be put in place to keep all our vehicles on the move. Who's going to pay for that do you think and what effect will that have on the real cost to us of electric vehicles? Right now the national grid almost creaks when people put their kettles during popular TV events how much worse will it be when we're all trying to charge our vehicles? A lot's going to have to be done to prevent this whole thing from turning out very costly indeed, both in terms of cash and our freedom of movement.
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18-10-2017, 13:17
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
At the moment I am seeing at least one fully electric vehicle pass me on the road every time I go out (most common is the Nissan Leaf). One of my friends just bought one as well. It’s happening, and apparently at an increasing pace.
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18-10-2017, 13:36
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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At the moment I am seeing at least one fully electric vehicle pass me on the road every time I go out (most common is the Nissan Leaf). One of my friends just bought one as well. It’s happening, and apparently at an increasing pace.
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i saw a Tesla a few months back other than that all i see is traditional vehicles and a few hybrids .
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18-10-2017, 13:47
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
I see quite a few Teslas now but this is London.
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18-10-2017, 16:36
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
We had a Tesla owner stay with us last year. Loved having it on the driveway even if it was only for one night.
Someone local must own one as well, because I’ve seen one on the roads near here a couple of times lately.
They are very, very lovely machines, and capable of replacing a petro-fuelled car for just about anyone short of a hard working sales rep.
Pity I’ll never have the means to own one though!
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18-10-2017, 16:58
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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We had a Tesla owner stay with us last year. Loved having it on the driveway even if it was only for one night.
Someone local must own one as well, because I’ve seen one on the roads near here a couple of times lately.
They are very, very lovely machines, and capable of replacing a petro-fuelled car for just about anyone short of a hard working sales rep.
Pity I’ll never have the means to own one though!
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The model S is very tasty indeed. We’ll start seeing even more of them (Teslas ) in the coming 18 months when the more accessible Model 3 hits the right hand drive markets.
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18-10-2017, 17:11
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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Originally Posted by Chris
We had a Tesla owner stay with us last year. Loved having it on the driveway even if it was only for one night.
Someone local must own one as well, because I’ve seen one on the roads near here a couple of times lately.
They are very, very lovely machines, and capable of replacing a petro-fuelled car for just about anyone short of a hard working sales rep.
Pity I’ll never have the means to own one though!
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oh yea wink wink poor guest house owner
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18-10-2017, 17:14
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
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oh yea wink wink poor guest house owner
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Don't worry as l am sure the CF mods will club together to buy him one.
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18-10-2017, 20:50
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).
Well as I am now retraining as a Baptist church minister I am neither going to secure a fat salary, nor win the lottery. So I guess I’d better find a house near my church so I’ll only ever have to worry about shoe leather.
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