06-10-2016, 17:52
|
#1
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,065
|
Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
The Wright Stuff had an interesting discussion earlier as to whether some people should not be allowed to procreate.
I believe that, in the most extreme circumstances, some people should be prevented from having children.
The Wright Stuff focussed on the recent case where a paedophile convicted of having 137,000 indecent images of children was allowed to walk free because "he wants to start a family".
Other reasons may include past proven physical or emotional abuse, those giving birth to child after child without the means to look after them etc.
Arguments against this include the belief that the right to procreate is an essential human right.
What do others think?
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 18:20
|
#2
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 13,739
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
The Wright Stuff had an interesting discussion earlier as to whether some people should not be allowed to procreate.
I believe that, in the most extreme circumstances, some people should be prevented from having children.
The Wright Stuff focussed on the recent case where a paedophile convicted of having 137,000 indecent images of children was allowed to walk free because "he wants to start a family".
Other reasons may include past proven physical or emotional abuse, those giving birth to child after child without the means to look after them etc.
Arguments against this include the belief that the right to procreate is an essential human right.
What do others think?
|
have you procreated yet
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 18:24
|
#3
|
Perfect Soldier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Worthing West Sussex
Age: 66
Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone
Posts: 10,995
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
I think that if some couple has a inheritable severe disability then maybe yes. Though who decides this and then how to prevent those people from procreating is probably a step too far. Eugenics anybody?
__________________
History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 18:28
|
#4
|
Haggis Hunting
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Over there
Posts: 1,096
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Do i think that certain people shouldn't have children? Yes. Do i think it should actually be enforced? No. That's a road that can only lead somewhere very very dark.
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 18:34
|
#5
|
Guest
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle
Sky Q 2TB box
Sky Q mini box
Sky fibre unlimited
Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
definitely not .Plenty of people should have children removed but never forcibly prevented from having children
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 19:23
|
#6
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,423
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Isn't this proposal one of the basic tenets of a Fascist state?
__________________
Unifi Express + BT Whole Home WiFi | VM 1Gbps
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 19:45
|
#7
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 5,386
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh
definitely not .Plenty of people should have children removed but never forcibly prevented from having children
|
What if the people have HIV or Aids?
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 19:55
|
#8
|
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 67
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 42,099
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jb66
What if the people have HIV or Aids?
|
http://mobile.aidsmap.com/HIV-and-ha...y/page/1044918
Quote:
Women living with HIV can have healthy pregnancies and give birth to healthy babies without passing on HIV. Most of the advice for women with HIV is the same as it would be for anyone else thinking about starting a family or having another baby. Some extra steps are necessary to reduce the risk of HIV being passed on.
|
__________________
There is always light.
If only we’re brave enough to see it.
If only we’re brave enough to be it.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 20:18
|
#9
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wales
Posts: 2,509
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
i voted yes but only for a very limited few the main one being where the person is mentally incapable of properly looking after themselves and or their mental age puts them in the range of not being able to consent. It would be far better to prevent in those circumstances than sort out later. which could either upset them more or leave a child at risk.
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 20:23
|
#10
|
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 71
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,163
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
I think of it this way..Having children is NOT a human right.However I am not prepared to live in a society that has forced eugenics.
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 20:28
|
#11
|
Woke and proud !
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,133
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Exactly how would you prevent anyone from 'procreating' ?
There was an interesting documentary on Downs syndrome last night, quality of life is in the eye of the beholder. Almost all that prescan positive for the syndrome abort. Maybe some of them should have watched this programme, with some very happy Downs syndrome families. Not against abortion, but life is precious, and nobody should judge what's good for someone else.
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 21:16
|
#12
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wales
Posts: 2,509
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J
I think of it this way..Having children is NOT a human right.However I am not prepared to live in a society that has forced eugenics.
|
i don't either as such and i don't think a physical disability is a reason to and though i think rapists and pedophiles should generally be locked up for good i would not be in favor of using it on them either. However i do think where the mental capability to even risk assess your self then it could be and though it may not be talked about this happens already in one form or another.
|
|
|
06-10-2016, 22:22
|
#13
|
cf.mega pornstar
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,802
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J
I think of it this way..Having children is NOT a human right.However I am not prepared to live in a society that has forced eugenics.
|
You already have done, you're not that much younger than my aunt who was nearly sterilised for the crime of promiscuity as a teen, iirc they claimed it was a mental disorder. Think I may bring that up again when some one has the rose tinted specs on banging on about how great things used to be.
|
|
|
07-10-2016, 11:46
|
#14
|
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 67
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 42,099
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Why use 'procreating' in the title/proposition when 'having children' is clearer?
__________________
There is always light.
If only we’re brave enough to see it.
If only we’re brave enough to be it.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
|
|
|
07-10-2016, 11:53
|
#15
|
Perfect Soldier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Worthing West Sussex
Age: 66
Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone
Posts: 10,995
|
Re: Should people be prevented from procreating under any circumstances?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh
Why use 'procreating' in the title/proposition when 'having children' is clearer?
|
Or even "Dropping sprogs"
__________________
History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:22.
|