[Update] The News Corp scandal - Page 34

Flyboy · 11-07-2011, 17:40

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Originally Posted by denphone

What the world press think of it all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14109531

Strong words, but I don't think it is wise to throw stones in glass houses.

AdamD · 11-07-2011, 17:43

Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt says takeover bid by News Corp for BSkyB is to be referred to Competition Commission

I don't think it's a question of competition anymore, more like morales.

Maybe we need a morality commission.

Flyboy · 11-07-2011, 17:46

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad

She must have something on Rupert and / or James for them to continue to support her.

Who'd have thought the Murdoch's would have closed their top selling tabloid when they had a ready made scapegoat. There's certainly a lot more to this and her.

I have theory about that, regarding plurality. All of this could be an elaborate strategy for Murdoch to actually seize control of BSkyB. One of the major stumbling blocks was his excessive media holdings in the UK. As he has now let the largest part of his newspaper empire to fold, his share in the UK print media has diminished significantly, thus almost eliminating the problem. As we have seen over he last few days, the share price in BSkyB has fallen, by almost twenty percent, in the last couple of weeks, it will cost him considerably less. All he has to do now, is bribe a few OFCOM officials and he will be home and dry. Only a theory, mind.

Sirius · 11-07-2011, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I have theory about that, regarding plurality. All of this could be an elaborate strategy for Murdoch to actually seize control of BSkyB. One of the major stumbling blocks was his excessive media holdings in the UK. As he has now let the largest part of his newspaper empire to fold, his share in the UK print media has diminished significantly, thus almost eliminating the problem. As we have seen over he last few days, the share price in BSkyB has fallen, by almost twenty percent, in the last couple of weeks, it will cost him considerably less. All he has to do now, is bribe a few OFCOM officials and he will be home and dry. Only a theory, mind.

Now that i can agree with. Murdoch is a Wiley old fox and has the ability to change the requirements for his buyout of BSkyB and if that means throwing hardworking people on to the dole so be it. Your correct in that he has reduced his holdings in such a way that no matter what is done now he will win.

I really hate Murdoch and all he stands for.

denphone · 11-07-2011, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Now that i can agree with. Murdoch is a Wiley old fox and has the ability to change the requirements for his buyout of BSkyB and if that means throwing hardworking people on to the dole so be it. Your correct in that he has reduced his holdings in such a way that no matter what is done now he will win.

I really hate Murdoch and all he stands for.

Yes and l agree with you totally and as the old saying a fox changes his fur but not his habits and Murdoch will do anything to get his hands on BSKYB and this is his latest ploy but l believe it will not Succeed.

Flyboy · 11-07-2011, 18:14

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Originally Posted by denphone

Yes and l agree with you totally and as the old saying a fox changes his fur but not his habits and Murdoch will do anything to get his hands on BSKYB and this is his latest ploy but l believe it will not Succeed.

I would love to be able to agree with that, but his stranglehold he has on the establishment and close links to people in the government, it is likely that he will succeed, maybe not tomorrow, or next week, but not in the too distant future.

Did anyone ever see "Goldeneye?"

denphone · 11-07-2011, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I would love to be able to agree with that, but his stranglehold he has on the establishment and close links to people in the government, it is likely that he will succeed, maybe not tomorrow, or next week, but not in the too distant future.

Did anyone ever see "Goldeneye?"

Yes l have the complete James Bond collection and that includes Goldeneye.

Well we shall see about Murdoch but l believe this is something that the establishment must face up to and break his stranglehold because the public and the wider world will be watching and if they fail to break his grip on this country now then we might never get another chance to rid ourselves of this nefarious man and his influence.

**Maggy** · 11-07-2011, 18:30

I watched Milleband versus Hunt in the House of Commons this afternoon.Milleband must stop attacking Cameron in that way..They need to pipe down and actually get something done about the situation and they can only do that by cooperating with all sides of the house.

Cameron is not the issue.It is NI,Murdoch,police corruption,illegal activities on behalf of the press as well as Bskyb that are the issues.

Sirius · 11-07-2011, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Cameron is not the issue.It is NI,Murdoch,police corruption,illegal activities on behalf of the press as well as Bskyb that are the issues.

**Hugh** · 11-07-2011, 18:48

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Strong words, but I don't think it is wise to throw stones in glass houses.

So true.....

Tezcatlipoca · 11-07-2011, 18:48

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Originally Posted by Damien

https://twitter.com/#!/BBCLauraK

These people are sick.

I'm sure that Rebekah [sic] Brooks was allegedly on holiday while these latest alleged offences allegedly happened...

Derek · 11-07-2011, 19:27

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Originally Posted by Damien

How is this woman still in her job?

She knows where the bodies are buried...

Normally that's just a figure of speech but with this debacle it may be closer to the truth than you'd think.

Flyboy · 11-07-2011, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I watched Milleband versus Hunt in the House of Commons this afternoon.Milleband must stop attacking Cameron in that way..They need to pipe down and actually get something done about the situation and they can only do that by cooperating with all sides of the house.

I am sure you are not accusing Ed Milliband of bullying James Hunt, are you. Because you really need to see Cameron when he has a full head of steam.

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Cameron is not the issue.It is NI,Murdoch,police corruption,illegal activities on behalf of the press as well as Bskyb that are the issues.

But Cameron's involvement cannot be circumvented by simply saying he is not the issue. Although he is not yet at the centre of all of this, he must take at least some resonsibilty for his complicity.

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I'm sure that Rebekah [sic] Brooks was allegedly on holiday while these latest alleged offences allegedly happened...

I don't think she have taken that many holidays, could she?

TheDon · 11-07-2011, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Damien

How is this woman still in her job?

It's obvious really, if she goes, then it's Murdoch's son directly in the line of fire, and he can't have that.

She's making an awesome lightning rod at the moment, why get rid of her and have the chance the focus will shift to someone else?

She'll be gotten rid of when she's fully served her purpose.

Flyboy · 11-07-2011, 22:40

It appears Murdoch has now reneged on a commitment to make Sky News independent.

Phone hacking scandal: Murdoch pulls Sky News plan to force inquiry

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Rupert Murdoch has withdrawn a promise to spin off Sky News in a desperate attempt to rescue his plan to take full control of BSkyB.

This will now undoubtedly be referred to the competition commission, which I suspect was the plan all along. It is not impossible to imagine that he has a few "friends" on that commission.