Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
01-05-2017, 15:16
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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I can't believe how poorly written that article is, obviously grammar and structure do not apply to online journalists.
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01-05-2017, 17:19
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
This 50 billion figure is bandied about a lot but lets not forget the UK has contributed greatly to assets within the wider EU and would be entitled to some form of financial restitution so as normal the pro EU brigade are trying their usual doom and gloom scare tactics. It honestly stumps me how an approach that utterly failed by any measure is still employed and if as some constantly state the EU is so good for the UK why are all these benefits not being promoted rather then the constant barrage of negative bs. The EU is trying to appear strong and united in an attempt to intimidate the UK in the negotiations the only problem of course is they are neither strong nor united.
There is growing pressure in Germany to reach a deal that benefits both sides and even in france there isn't much enthusiasm for any protracted period of no trade deals between the EU and the UK. There are definately some in the UK who feel we should get on our knees and thank the EU for any crumbs they flick our way and it's disgusting that some are prepared to damage the UK to further their pro EU agenda. These negotiations are far more critical to the EU then to the UK at this point due to internal EU issue's that brussels is struggling to keep control of and keep out of the media. Personally i give it six months before things start leaking out and becoming public knowledge time is on the side of the UK.
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01-05-2017, 17:55
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
A good summary of how May has not been getting on with delivering Brexit. Noteworthy is how the EU27 are united but the UK is pulling in different directions with Scotland talking of another devolution referendum.
http://jackofkent.com/2017/04/the-th...job-on-brexit/
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01-05-2017, 19:10
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
A good summary of how May has not been getting on with delivering Brexit. Noteworthy is how the EU27 are united but the UK is pulling in different directions with Scotland talking of another devolution referendum.
http://jackofkent.com/2017/04/the-th...job-on-brexit/
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This is far too simplistic an article to take seriously.
It should not be forgotten either that Brexit negotiations never were going to get off to a quick start, given the French and German elections this year.
I think it will become clear soon just how well prepared the May Government is.
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01-05-2017, 19:20
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I think the EU 27 are united in fear that the UK could just walk away and leave Germany et al to pick up the majority of the £50bn bill. It's our ace in the hole.
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01-05-2017, 19:50
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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This is far too simplistic an article to take seriously.
It should not be forgotten either that Brexit negotiations never were going to get off to a quick start, given the French and German elections this year.
I think it will become clear soon just how well prepared the May Government is.
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The author also has a book coming out from Oxford University Press “Brexit What Everyone Needs to Know” so should be taken pretty seriously.
Unfortunately, I think it's quite clear how prepared May's government is so far and the Brexit clock is ticking but I take your point on the elections. I don't think May is doing a great job as evidenced by the blog and recent events but by comparison to the other political parties in the UK she's superwoman! But we're negotiating with the EU, not Labour or the Liberal Democrats!
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01-05-2017, 21:08
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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The author also has a book coming out from Oxford University Press “Brexit What Everyone Needs to Know” so should be taken pretty seriously.
Unfortunately, I think it's quite clear how prepared May's government is so far and the Brexit clock is ticking but I take your point on the elections. I don't think May is doing a great job as evidenced by the blog and recent events but by comparison to the other political parties in the UK she's superwoman! But we're negotiating with the EU, not Labour or the Liberal Democrats!
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I think we will soon find that it is Theresa that people trust.
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01-05-2017, 21:10
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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I think it will become clear soon just how well prepared the May Government is.
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Think you're right there, we're seeing all the signs already !
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01-05-2017, 22:12
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
The EU has and always will be only interested in UK money it appears to be the only talking point coming from the EU. We want your money gimmie gimmie gimmie.
We have been mugs for far too long thinking we are part of the heads of the table to find we are actually at the bottom.
They have flavoured our country with little treats here and there just enough to get hooked on but not enough to get a say how much we want.
The sooner the talks start the better it might shut a lot of these stay moaners from going on and on and on.
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01-05-2017, 22:37
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Think you're right there, we're seeing all the signs already !
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Good signs that it's going to be a hard brexit. Good.
EU are showing what set of pricks they really are.
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01-05-2017, 22:42
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Good signs that it's going to be a hard brexit. Good.
EU are showing what set of pricks they really are.
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Yep and it takes a special sort of blindness not to be able to see that.
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01-05-2017, 23:10
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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EU are showing what set of pricks they really are.
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Probably just as well you're not involved in negotiations Mick !
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01-05-2017, 23:32
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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Probably just as well you're not involved in negotiations Mick !
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better he does it in my opinion than be a pushover like we have been for such a long time.
Thats how they like it do as we say not as we do
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02-05-2017, 20:52
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !
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better he does it in my opinion than be a pushover like we have been for such a long time.
Thats how they like it do as we say not as we do
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