Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
12-03-2012, 19:09
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Which they do every year, so it's not really relevant.
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Increasing costs for increasing speed vs. not costs for increasing speed is very relevant.
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Last time I checked, just under 70% of cable users get the speed they're paying for. For ADSL, that figure was <50%. Has that changed recently?
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VDSL changed that.
Neither are VM. What's your point?
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For most people, I think upload speed isn't an issue.
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For most people, I think download speed isn't an issue.
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Assuming they don't finish ahead of schedule. Which, if recent news is any indication, they may well finish sooner.
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Recent news says they are 4-5 months BEHIND schedule on the first of 3 sets of upgrades necessary before double speeds can take place.
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Base price. Not including discounts/mates rates/etc.
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Wrong. £25.50 after discounts. £34.75 before.
Infinity is £25 before discounts.
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Well we all know that most current ADSL users don't get anywhere near their headline speed at any time. Any information on how close to headline speed their Infinity product is for the average customer?
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Infinity customers get the almost the same percentage of their provisioned speed as VM 50mb customers (2% less). In proportion to "headline speed" which is subject to marketing spin, VM 50mb gets 96% and BT 40mb gets 90%.
Infinity customers are not subject to STM or deliberate reductions in speed. Infinity customers are also guaranteed a minimum speed at all times.
Interactive activities, such as web browsing, are faster on BT 40mb than VM 50mb.
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12-03-2012, 19:18
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
Don't play with either troll.
I had to put a post in this thread, the first two posters amusingly were both on my ignore list but I was bored and curious.
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12-03-2012, 19:21
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Don't play with either troll.
I had to put a post in this thread, the first two posters amusingly were both on my ignore list but I was bored and curious.
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12-03-2012, 19:22
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
i wonder if i am on ingition ingoer lsit lol
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12-03-2012, 19:25
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Don't play with either troll.
I had to put a post in this thread, the first two posters amusingly were both on my ignore list but I was bored and curious.
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Oh, they both trolls?
Dammit, I fell for it again. My bad. Maybe I need an upgraded trolldar
Back to doing my actual job then, instead of falling for this crap over and over again
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12-03-2012, 19:26
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
i wonder if i am on ingition ingoer lsit lol
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Not yet.
While we're talking about FTTC... http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/i/5088.html
It's off topic but far more interesting than the topic anyway, TalkTalk ask for £5 a month extra for 80Mb/20Mb over their 40Mb/2Mb service, however it should be noted that TalkTalk take their service direct from Openreach while BT Infinity is a BT Wholesale resold service so is at the mercy of Wholesale's price list.
Openreach charge £2.55/month not including VAT more for 80Mb/20Mb than 40Mb/10Mb.
It's not going to be free, BT are already taking a hit charging the same for Infinity as Total, they're not going to take another £5+/month hit on 80Mb/20Mb, their margins are already pretty slim on this product.
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12-03-2012, 19:31
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
VM do match FTTC on download speeds just one has to sign up to one of VMs highest 2 tiers, and the market is download focused at the moment.
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12-03-2012, 19:56
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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It's not going to be free, BT are already taking a hit charging the same for Infinity as Total, they're not going to take another £5+/month hit on 80Mb/20Mb, their margins are already pretty slim on this product.
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Hmm. Analysts have said BT charging £25 for 40mb while VM are going to charge £25 for 100 would mean they would have to offer the upgraded speeds at no cost or look very uncompetitive.
Quite how this will pan out I don't know but competition is good, right?.
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12-03-2012, 20:12
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
Can I remind members that the IGNORE feature is the best way to go if you do not like a particular member, or just simply leave the thread.. Also I suggest that if you do not have anything to add to the topic then you do not post.
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12-03-2012, 23:44
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
i see ou are still pro virign carl and you dnt work for them lol
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Yes. And your point is?
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most peopel do want more upload
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Do you have any evidence to back-up this claim?
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12-03-2012, 23:46
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Hmm. Analysts have said BT charging £25 for 40mb while VM are going to charge £25 for 100 would mean they would have to offer the upgraded speeds at no cost or look very uncompetitive.
Quite how this will pan out I don't know but competition is good, right?.
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VM trying to trash the market more it seems forcing prices down.
However BT are superior value in phone services so BT could argue the higher broadband price is offset in a phone/broadband combo deal as well as the higher upload speeds and better gaming performance.
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13-03-2012, 01:00
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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13-03-2012, 06:42
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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13-03-2012, 07:13
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
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Can I remind members that the IGNORE feature is the best way to go if you do not like a particular member, or just simply leave the thread.. Also I suggest that if you do not have anything to add to the topic then you do not post.
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Can you ignore mods?
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13-03-2012, 07:17
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Re: Virgin Media should have matched BT FTTC
Not if they are posting as a Mod in bold.
Can you put us on ignore? Don't know, but if you could, and ignored Mod/Admin requests, the outcome for someone who did that could be sub-optimal....
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