General : Coming soon to Virgin TV 2014

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Thanks, it looks like it's not FTA then. It's FTV on Sky, but there are differing reports as to whether it can be viewed via 'other channels' off the EPG outside London.

I can't find a link to the channel on the London Live website, is there one?


It was Hunts vanity project and is a real waste of money at a time of austerity

I tuned my Sky+HD box to London Live via other channels off the EPG and I'm up north , not something I'll be bothering with though a few minutes was enough.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Maybe Premier Sports takeover!

Good shout.

[Media Boy UK]

April List update - April 1st update.

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=== Freeviews on Virgin Media or Smallworld ===
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=== April ===
1st. Cartoon Network Too closes on Virgin Channel 705 and Smallworld Channel 602.
1st. Cartoon Network +1 launches at 2.55am on Virgin Channel 705 and Smallworld Channel 602.
14th. Sky Movies Greats rebrand as Sky Movies Superhero on Virgin Channel 410 and Smallworld Channel 309.
14th. Sky Movies Greats HD rebrand as Sky Movies Superhero HD on Virgin Channel 440 and Smallworld Channel 337.
27th. Sky Movies Superhero rebrand as Sky Movies Greats on Virgin Channel 410 and Smallworld Channel 309.
27th. Sky Movies Superhero HD rebrand as Sky Movies Greats HD on Virgin Channel 440 and Smallworld Channel 337.

=== May ===
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=== June ===
2nd. STV to launch STV Glasgow on Virgin Channel 159 (STV West areas only.)

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ITV to launch ITVBe on Virgin Media and Smallworld.

=== Autumn 2015 ===
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=== Local TV on Virgin Media ===
-Local TV broadcaster Made in Bristol hope to launch sometime in 2014 on Virgin Channel 159.
-Local TV broadcaster Made in Leeds hope to launch sometime in 2014 on Virgin Channel 159.
-Local TV may launch on Virgin TV in some areas on Virgin Channel 159.
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-Rumours has reappeared that Sky to close Sky Livingit and Sky Livingit +1.
-The BBC to axe BBC Radio 4 LW on Virgin Channel 911 ''in the long term''.
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Documentaries:
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-Nat Geo Wild HD**
-CI HD**

Lifestyle:
-Travel Channel +1*
-Food Network +1*
-Ideal Extra*
-Fashion TV**

Movies:
-Movies4Men*

Music:
-MTV Classic***
-Channel AKA*
-Now Music*

News:
-CCTV News*
-Sky News HD**

Sports:
-Sky Sports News HD**

Kids:
-Disney Channel HD**

Specialist:
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Radio:
-UCB Ireland**

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[denphone]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

It's available on these headends:
Croydon
Hersham
Hayes
Watford
Haringey
Seven Kings
Bromley
Lewisham



You want timeshifts too?

Timeshift channels are perfectly fine in our household SP unless a TiVo STB suddenly appeared with 6 tuners.

[steveh]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

What a complete waste of money this Local TV is , can anyone try and explain the reasoning behind having it ?

Purely a Conservative desire to have local TV services that aren't supplied by the BBC, ITV having already axed most of that side.

At least Channel One when that operated was doing something a bit different and invested in local news gathering. London Live seems to be generic lifestyle / entertainment news fluff and old TV shows that regularly recycle on existing channels or on-demand.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I tuned my Sky+HD box to London Live via other channels off the EPG and I'm up north , not something I'll be bothering with though a few minutes was enough.

Originally Posted by steveh

Purely a Conservative desire to have local TV services that aren't supplied by the BBC, ITV having already axed most of that side.

At least Channel One when that operated was doing something a bit different and invested in local news gathering. London Live seems to be generic lifestyle / entertainment news fluff and old TV shows that regularly recycle on existing channels or on-demand.

After seeing the schedule and viewer reports of it so far, i'm no longer bothered about receiving it.

As you say it's just fluff and I can't see why encryption was neccessary, most of the bought in stuff has already been repeated to death and broadcast FTA anyway!

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Has anybody in London had London Live added to their EPG yet?

If so, could you please take out your card from the box and let us know if you can still view the channel (this will show if the channel is Free To Air or not).

I can receive London Live on Freeview, and I live in the Thames Valley.

---------- Post added at 19:44 ---------- Previous post was at 19:41 ----------

Originally Posted by muppetman11

What a complete waste of money this Local TV is , can anyone try and explain the reasoning behind having it ?

They work quite well in the US.

The idea I think is to provide an alternative to the BBC for local programming. They need to add other programmes to it to draw in the audience and boost advertising revenue. Should get better with time.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I can receive London Live on Freeview, and I live in the Thames Valley.

---------- Post added at 19:44 ---------- Previous post was at 19:41 ----------

They work quite well in the US.

The idea I think is to provide an alternative to the BBC for local programming. They need to add other programmes to it to draw in the audience and boost advertising revenue. Should get better with time.

London Live looks nothing like Local TV in the US , over the years I've spent enough time in the USA to know that local news is the lifeblood of their Local TV channels in fact local live news , weather and sport represent at least two thirds of the daily schedule.

[jobbie8]

Anyone know why Cartoon Network Too has been replaced with CN+1 channel?
Always thought CNToo was a separate channel?
Thinking about it I suppose, TCM2 went the same way.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by jobbie8

Anyone know why Cartoon Network Too has been replaced with CN+1 channel?
Always thought CNToo was a separate channel?
Thinking about it I suppose, TCM2 went the same way.

I do not know but maybe it due to low viewing numbers.

barb says it only got 0.1%.

Cartoonito got 0.1%
TCM got 0.2%
Cartoon Network got 0.3%

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing/monthl...t=View+figures

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Thanks, it looks like it's not FTA then. It's FTV on Sky, but there are differing reports as to whether it can be viewed via 'other channels' off the EPG outside London.

I can't find a link to the channel on the London Live website, is there one?



It was Hunts vanity project and is a real waste of money at a time of austerity

Erm, it's owned and funded by the Lebdevevs, the family that own the Evening Standard......

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...aunch-31-march

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Erm, it's owned and funded by the Lebdevevs, the family that own the Evening Standard......

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...aunch-31-march

That's not the full picture though.

Besides the costs of licensing the local TV channels, there is some funding from the licence fee, as detailed below. Were they also given a low Freeview channel (8) as well?

"Separately on Thursday, the BBC Trust published details of how it plans to allocate up to £25m in licence fee money to help the local TV multiplex licensee to fund its capital start-up costs, including transmitters and other equipment, between 2013 and 2017.

The BBC said the local TV multiplex licencee was "of course free to consider whether they could fund their plans independently of the BBC funding".

Another £5m of licence fee money will be allocated annually over three years from 2014 for the BBC to buy content from local TV service operators, provided it is "suitable for inclusion in a UK public service (i.e. a BBC service) and the price represents value for money""

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...al-tv-services

I think it's an interesting experiment and I think it could work in a few of the larger cities.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

London Live looks nothing like Local TV in the US , over the years I've spent enough time in the USA to know that local news is the lifeblood of their Local TV channels in fact local live news , weather and sport represent at least two thirds of the daily schedule.

I wouldn't disagree, MM, but you need to give it time to establish itself and generate some money.

I don't necessarily want the local channels to emulate the US ones, but I do want them to be worthwhile watching.

It's early days, and I'm an optimist by nature. At least they should be given a sporting chance to improve, and it won't happen overnight.

[Richc1977]

Slight off topic but BT ruled out of CH5 bid.

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/article/1...nel-5-for-term

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I can receive London Live on Freeview, and I live in the Thames Valley.

---------- Post added at 19:44 ---------- Previous post was at 19:41 ----------

They work quite well in the US.

The idea I think is to provide an alternative to the BBC for local programming. They need to add other programmes to it to draw in the audience and boost advertising revenue. Should get better with time.

The US is far bigger than the UK though, I think that this country is too small for them to survive.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's not the full picture though.

Besides the costs of licensing the local TV channels, there is some funding from the licence fee, as detailed below. Were they also given a low Freeview channel (8) as well?

"Separately on Thursday, the BBC Trust published details of how it plans to allocate up to £25m in licence fee money to help the local TV multiplex licensee to fund its capital start-up costs, including transmitters and other equipment, between 2013 and 2017.

The BBC said the local TV multiplex licencee was "of course free to consider whether they could fund their plans independently of the BBC funding".

Another £5m of licence fee money will be allocated annually over three years from 2014 for the BBC to buy content from local TV service operators, provided it is "suitable for inclusion in a UK public service (i.e. a BBC service) and the price represents value for money""

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...al-tv-services

I think it's an interesting experiment and I think it could work in a few of the larger cities.

I'm sure he will be aware of this, it's good to point it out though. Whilst the BBC are having to consider cuts eg BBC Three, this Government has frozen the licence fee. In addition they have effectively forced the BBC to provide fundin for S4C, The World Service, Local TV, The DSO help scheme, Broadband etc.

In the case of London Live, the Government has enabled funding for an extremely rich family to open their own TV channel. An outrageous waste of public money when essential services are being cut.