Application Throttling/Management - Page 15

15-07-2008, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Sambora

Did you compare it with an alternative route; say an "openreach" connection?

Perhaps it was not accessible at all?

There is no such thing as an 'openreach' connection as they are not a CP, I did however compare it with a BT Retail connection who have no problem accessing the site

Cobbydaler · 15-07-2008, 07:12

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Originally Posted by Irvysan

That will be why I could not connect to a certain "pirate bay" website until after 11pm this evening?? Does anyone know how i could confirm this??

The site does go down for varying periods on occasion.

Throttling wouldn't make it inaccessible...

LostintheNW · 15-07-2008, 09:02

1 day to go and I am free from VM and their shoddy service. If playing games on XBL degrades their fantastic "fibre optic" cable network then its a complete joke

the-cable-guy · 01-08-2008, 01:06

i have tested this myself many times & TraxData is correct. for example if i download from Rapidshare i dont get throttled but if i use Utorrent i do. thats all the proof that i need.

Jelly · 01-08-2008, 09:23

That's not proof; there are too many uncertain factors in the case of torrents. It may have been poorly seeded, your ports may not have been forwarded or you forwarded the wrong ones, or the tracker was unresponsive and you were only getting DHT peers. You might also have hit the STM limit.

Fatec · 02-08-2008, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Jelly

That's not proof; there are too many uncertain factors in the case of torrents. It may have been poorly seeded, your ports may not have been forwarded or you forwarded the wrong ones, or the tracker was unresponsive and you were only getting DHT peers. You might also have hit the STM limit.

Quick test from me, from a torrent with 2x100Mbit seeders and 1x1Gbit seed box.

VM connection (at gfs) download starts off @ 100Kb/s, sometimes touches 200Kb/s but wont go any higher.

Hook up her ADSL+2 connection, download starts at 2.3MB/s straight away and stays that way, now you could say adsl+2 connection has much better routing to the seedbox/seeders, however, the seedbox is in the UK and has a good link up to VM (http links direct from the seedbox are fine, btw).

Nothing funky going on there? course not

Torrenting On VM @ her house is impossible, poor speeds, poor upload speeds.

Yet fine with HTTP (usenet even goes up/down now...lol..)

02-08-2008, 15:39

got screen shot trax?

brundles · 02-08-2008, 16:10

One of the most infuriating things about Virgin is their policy of messing around with peoples connections and not saying anything on the basis it's a trial

One other question Trax - if you shift the usenet connection to SSL do you see the same results?

dragon · 02-08-2008, 16:20

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Originally Posted by brundles

One of the most infuriating things about Virgin is their policy of messing around with peoples connections and not saying anything on the basis it's a trial

One other question Trax - if you shift the usenet connection to SSL do you see the same results?

It wouldnt be hard for them to Thorttle SSL usenet based on destination alone, i'm sure most ISP's which SSL traffic is usenet if its going to one of the major providers Ip ranges.

brundles · 03-08-2008, 01:38

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Originally Posted by dragon

It wouldnt be hard for them to Thorttle SSL usenet based on destination alone, i'm sure most ISP's which SSL traffic is usenet if its going to one of the major providers Ip ranges.

I'm not suggesting it would be difficult - throttling by destination is easier than throttling by protocol, but it's whether they are throttling or not.

As I've stated before, although I don't like STM, throttling, etc. I won't dispute that I'd be classed a heavy user in most ISPs eyes. I'm happy to work within the reasonable boundaries they set (i.e. scheduled overnight) if necessary but if the goalposts are moving quicker than I can shoot I may as well not bother working with them.

And before someone says "if you dont like it leave", I'm pretty much limited ot cable as I'll only get about 2 meg on ADSL where I am. That doesn't mean I have to like VMs policies though.

dragon · 03-08-2008, 01:42

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Originally Posted by brundles

I'm not suggesting it would be difficult - throttling by destination is easier than throttling by protocol, but it's whether they are throttling or not.

As I've stated before, although I don't like STM, throttling, etc. I won't dispute that I'd be classed a heavy user in most ISPs eyes. I'm happy to work within the reasonable boundaries they set (i.e. scheduled overnight) if necessary but if the goalposts are moving quicker than I can shoot I may as well not bother working with them.

And before someone says "if you dont like it leave", I'm pretty much limited ot cable as I'll only get about 2 meg on ADSL where I am. That doesn't mean I have to like VMs policies though.

That is a tad unfortunate.

I'm lucky i get decent ADSL speeds but if i End up somewhere with cable and only slow ADSL speeds available id probably end up making the same desision as yourself.

Jelly · 04-08-2008, 21:21

Ugh, torrenting has become horribly slow here. Can seed with my full connection, but when it comes to downloading, there'll be a burst when starting the torrent, then it'll stick at 20-60KB/s. Newsgroups have become my main source of anime now ;_;

kpanchev · 04-08-2008, 21:58

No problems with torrents for me, downloading full speed all the way (until it hits the stm and then it's a quarter, but still no interuption or any other kind of throttling. I'm in the Guildford area, 10Mbits connection.

Jelly · 05-08-2008, 09:12

Well I'm in the Birmingham/Solihull area. Anybody else nearby having problems? I am an extremely heavy downloader, so Virgin might have cut my line priority, but since HTTP and Newsgroup downloads work fine, I don't think that's it.

05-08-2008, 11:35

Torrents started messing up for not downloading at all but last night and this morning is fine