Application Throttling/Management
02-07-2008, 16:01
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
An interesting note on newgroups was having a look at options for the future and found good old easynews has now got a 150 gig for $29.99 using their zipmanager and http downloads would stop the throttling surely. Still expensive but a viable option if you ask me
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02-07-2008, 16:34
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by David F
An interesting note on newgroups was having a look at options for the future and found good old easynews has now got a 150 gig for $29.99 using their zipmanager and http downloads would stop the throttling surely. Still expensive but a viable option if you ask me
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Not really unless they frequently change their servers/ Ip range as VM could just give all traffic to their IP range a low priority.
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02-07-2008, 17:25
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by jojo3972
omg but surely an xbox live doesnt use that much data transfer arnt we alowed 500mb or summet a day, i did read sumwere that xbox live didnt hardly use any data transfer or watever it is it does, my partner does host games on gears of war will this make much diffrence will it use more than say if he was just joining a game if ya know wat i mean, joxx
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You're not understanding. I'll spell it out in n00b speak for you.
ALL transfers from ANYTHING connected to the internet COUNT TO YOUR ALLOWANCE.
If your XBL traffic takes you over the threshold it doesn't matter how much you use.
Have you measured how much it uses?
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02-07-2008, 17:52
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by nffc
You're not understanding. I'll spell it out in n00b speak for you.
ALL transfers from ANYTHING connected to the internet COUNT TO YOUR ALLOWANCE.
If your XBL traffic takes you over the threshold it doesn't matter how much you use.
Have you measured how much it uses?
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depends on the game. It seems to be around 50Kilobits/s on halo3 and it jumps up a fair bit when there's a lot going on, say 400 - 500Kps.
But it was hard to tell since my traffic graph was for the WAN port on the router and therefore being polluted by my browsing.
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02-07-2008, 18:28
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by nffc
You're not understanding. I'll spell it out in n00b speak for you.
ALL transfers from ANYTHING connected to the internet COUNT TO YOUR ALLOWANCE.
If your XBL traffic takes you over the threshold it doesn't matter how much you use.
Have you measured how much it uses?
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how do i measure how much it uses is there a programme i can get or sumthing, would be intresting to see actualy how much it does use, joxx
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02-07-2008, 18:36
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by dragon
depends on the game. It seems to be around 50Kilobits/s on halo3 and it jumps up a fair bit when there's a lot going on, say 400 - 500Kps.
But it was hard to tell since my traffic graph was for the WAN port on the router and therefore being polluted by my browsing.
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Interesting... My router doesnt have that, it would be nice to :S
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02-07-2008, 18:37
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by David F
An interesting note on newgroups was having a look at options for the future and found good old easynews has now got a 150 gig for $29.99 using their zipmanager and http downloads would stop the throttling surely. Still expensive but a viable option if you ask me
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Easynews staff have stated on their support group that VM are known to specifically throttle Easynews connections. Having said that I get full speed via the NNTP server but around 10meg using web + FDM + SSL. Not that it bothers me, nothing is ever that urgent when downloading from usenet and I prefer just downloading a single unrared/unpared file than using NNTP.
Been with them for over 6 years and I get a loyalty bonus and the gigs roll-over so if I can get something from the improved VM news server which doesn't appear to be throtlled, I use that first.
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02-07-2008, 18:40
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by jojo3972
how do i measure how much it uses is there a programme i can get or sumthing, would be intresting to see actualy how much it does use, joxx
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If you have a router which supports snmp you can use mrtg from your PC to graph your WAN throughput/usage
http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
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02-07-2008, 18:56
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by nffc
Interesting... My router doesnt have that, it would be nice to :S
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Take a look at Wallwatcher.. Google it Your router may well support it.
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02-07-2008, 19:08
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter
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If your a windows user PRTG is another alternative.
Mine displays it in the Web ui, but I don't have it save the data over reboots (It can do it but apperently it does cause a fairly high amount of writes to the flash memory)
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05-07-2008, 17:02
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
I dont have much time to post right now...
BUT....Langley/Bromsley...all i know is your going to be a test area soon!
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Originally Posted by dragon
Not really unless they frequently change their servers/ Ip range as VM could just give all traffic to their IP range a low priority.
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Which is what they already do for *some* services anyway.
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05-07-2008, 21:22
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
trax makes a very bad smell then leaves the room......again!!!
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05-07-2008, 22:18
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
*yawn*
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14-07-2008, 23:47
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
That will be why I could not connect to a certain "pirate bay" website until after 11pm this evening?? Does anyone know how i could confirm this??
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14-07-2008, 23:52
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by Irvysan
That will be why I could not connect to a certain "pirate bay" website until after 11pm this evening?? Does anyone know how i could confirm this??
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Did you compare it with an alternative route; say an "openreach" connection?
Perhaps it was not accessible at all?
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