Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

If it was a speech on global trade, then great, but it wasn't, it was a speech about the EU and its' position in the world. Here's the transcript - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

So the EU's position in the world is "If you want to speak to us don't use English."

That's a large section of the world to alienate.

[Osem]

It was a deliberate insult to the UK - that's what it was. It was puerile, unnecessary, unhelpful and the sure sign of someone dedicated to raising tensions between the EU and the UK, not calming them. Furthermore, had it been delivered by someone of similar standing in the UK there's a few folks here whose EU blinkers won't allow them to condemn Juncker yet would have been jumping up and down whining about the UK's grievous insult to the EU. Double standards or what.

[jonbxx]

I agree to an extent, it was indeed unhelpful to say it, even if it was meant as a joke to an international audience. I wouldn't say the UK has been keeping a clean sheet either.

Personally, I think it's time for a bit of a reboot and ask for everyone to start behaving like adults and be aware that this is being played out on an international stage with the world watching. I look forward to all the pre-match weigh in posturing ending and the real negotiations starting after the general election. It will be a fascinating exercise in diplomacy and negotiation.

Blah blah blah juncker is a prat let him prattle on to his hearts content in fact put a mic on him 24 hours a day to catch his every ignorant comment he's doing wonders just not in the way he thinks.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

I agree to an extent, it was indeed unhelpful to say it, even if it was meant as a joke to an international audience. I wouldn't say the UK has been keeping a clean sheet either.

Personally, I think it's time for a bit of a reboot and ask for everyone to start behaving like adults and be aware that this is being played out on an international stage with the world watching. I look forward to all the pre-match weigh in posturing ending and the real negotiations starting after the general election. It will be a fascinating exercise in diplomacy and negotiation.

It was not meant as a joke.

The UK has clearly been trying to keep things on an even keel - only shortly before this dinner, Theresa May was telling us all that there would be no running commentary, and clearly she was attempting to pitch this in a more sensible and professional way. Then Junker comes out with this nonsense - Theresa had no option but to respond.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It was not meant as a joke.

The UK has clearly been trying to keep things on an even keel - only shortly before this dinner, Theresa May was telling us all that there would be no running commentary, and clearly she was attempting to pitch this in a more sensible and professional way. Then Junker comes out with this nonsense - Theresa had no option but to respond.

Correct and I don't think any leaks from their meeting came from the UK's side.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7721316.html

What would be the purpose of this? Certainly not to benefit the UK or May...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

No, I am sure Ireland (population 4,625,885) and Malta (population 429,344) will be happy to continue speaking English. However, post Brexit, there are twice as many Catalan speakers than English

English is the Global language of trade and technology, hey if the EU want to cut themselves away from that......crack on.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It was not meant as a joke.

The UK has clearly been trying to keep things on an even keel - only shortly before this dinner, Theresa May was telling us all that there would be no running commentary, and clearly she was attempting to pitch this in a more sensible and professional way. Then Junker comes out with this nonsense - Theresa had no option but to respond.

Have you heard the speech or just read a transcript? The delivery was as a joke. Anyhow, here's what he actually said in the English portion of his speech;

I always have the same problem: I am always hesitating between two or three languages – leaving aside Luxembourgish because there are only few people able to speak and to understand Luxembourgish. I am hesitating between English and French, but I made my choice: I will express myself in French, because slowly but surely English is losing importance in Europe [laughter in the room]. And also because the French will have elections next Sunday, and I would like them to understand what I am saying about Europe and about nations.

Source - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

Are you sure about the May keeping an even keel? She has had her foreign secretary comparing the French to prison guards administering punishment beatings (backed up by Number 10) and a senior Tory peer stating we would go to war with Spain (not condemned by Number 10)

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Have you heard the speech or just read a transcript? The delivery was as a joke. Anyhow, here's what he actually said in the English portion of his speech;



Source - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

Are you sure about the May keeping an even keel? She has had her foreign secretary comparing the French to prison guards administering punishment beatings (backed up by Number 10) and a senior Tory peer stating we would go to war with Spain (not condemned by Number 10)

can you do it in French English isn't spoken much these days

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

can you do it in French English isn't spoken much these days

Only via Google Translate I am afraid;

Avez-vous entendu le discours ou simplement lire une transcription? La livraison était comme une blague. Quoi qu'il en soit, voici ce qu'il a réellement dit dans la partie anglaise de son discours;



Source - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

Êtes-vous sûr du fait que le mois de mai conserve une quille même? Elle a eu son secrétaire à l'étranger comparant les Français aux gardiens de prison administrant des coups de punition (soutenus par le numéro 10) et un collègue supérieur de Tory déclarant que nous allions en guerre avec l'Espagne (non condamné par le numéro 10)

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Only via Google Translate I am afraid;

Avez-vous entendu le discours ou simplement lire une transcription? La livraison était comme une blague. Quoi qu'il en soit, voici ce qu'il a réellement dit dans la partie anglaise de son discours;



Source - http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release...17-1238_fr.htm

Êtes-vous sûr du fait que le mois de mai conserve une quille même? Elle a eu son secrétaire à l'étranger comparant les Français aux gardiens de prison administrant des coups de punition (soutenus par le numéro 10) et un collègue supérieur de Tory déclarant que nous allions en guerre avec l'Espagne (non condamné par le numéro 10)

le fab

[heero_yuy]

THE BOSS OF Barclays has said there is no need to shift jobs from Britain post-Brexit.

In a sign that some banks are not worried about our exit from the bloc, Jes Staley said today the risks were “wholly manageable”.
And he said that his contingency plans were beginning to take shape, as the business prepares for Britain to quit the EU.

He told investors at the bank’s annual general meeting that there would continue to be a “seamless service across the EU” and would be done in a way that would protect the bank.

Since our historic vote to quit the EU last year, there are concerns that some firms may move workers to stay close to the Single Market area on the continent.

But Governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney’s new plans to keep London the financial centre of Europe have been backed by City banks.

Source

So another remoaner project fear dragon is vanquished.

[Osem]

Thinking back, it's funny how some people couldn't wait for the banks to leave or be driven out of the UK post 2008 yet when Brexit came up and it was claimed there'd be a mass exodus of those same institutions to the EU, they cited that as a major problem that would cost UK PLC billions of pounds and thousands of jobs. Maybe those pesky banks aren't so bad after all?...

The only companies that are moving after brexit are the one's that were moving anyway but brexit is such a good excuse to throw out to try and hide the fact hell brexit is the one excuse for anything companies want to do. We as customer's have some power here by remembering those who have profitted off brexit and using companies that didn't.

[pip08456]

OH no! More bad Brexit news.

Britain's builders are shaking off Brexit uncertainty and reporting booming demand