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[Florence]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Oh I think I met Alex@Phorm too, Kent arrived with a chap from Phorm called Alex. Alex didn't say anything though other than hello and goodbye.

Alexander Hanff

OH be carefull Alexander they might be trying to phorm you onto their side

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by Florence

OH be carefull Alexander they might be trying to phorm you onto their side

Funny you should say that, my pass for the ITSec conference (where the BBC filmed the show) states:

Alexander Hanff
IT Specialist
Phorm

So I am thinking of asking Kent where my pay cheque is.



Alexander Hanff

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by roadrunner69

You don't need to - the questions are in bt's quote



Q1. When using the internet would you prefer to see less irrelevant advertising?

Q2. Would you like more protection against online fraud?

I'd bet my house on me not being a million miles away from the actual questions asked.

We're not all stupid at tesco ya know ...probably

I distinctly remember when visiting the then Ntlworld homepage and getting a pop-up asking me to take part in an on-line survey. Among some other guff I distinctly remember them two questions. I think you have got the questions exactly word for word as far as I can remember.

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Funny you should say that, my pass for the ITSec conference (where the BBC filmed the show) states:

Alexander Hanff
IT Specialist
Phorm

So I am thinking of asking Kent where my pay cheque is.



Alexander Hanff

Just don't let him pay you in share options

On a related note: Do you think Kent's nervous/obnoxious attitude could have been down to a certain lack of forewarning from his droid army on what you were going to say in the interview? Maybe the PM route of compiling your questions/statements for Click has got the enemy rattled (i.e. they couldn't prepare responses to points scraped from this forum) I'm all for open discussion in this forum (it's how most of minor figures like me in this campaign get our info) but perhaps the decision not to announce in advance exactly what you're going to say/ask in high profile interviews is having some effect?

[Tharrick]

I distinctly remember when visiting the then Ntlworld homepage and getting a pop-up asking me to take part in an on-line survey. Among some other guff I distinctly remember them two questions. I think you have got the questions exactly word for word as far as I can remember.

I recall these questions somewhere.
I answered 'yes' to the first, but I originally thought that it would involve more sensible placement of adverts - for example, an advert for a ski shop on a holiday website, yes, but an advert for boots on a wheelchair website, no.

I think I answered 'yes' to the second as well, but this was before I knew about firefox's built in anti-phishing stuff.

[Portly_Giraffe]

So, have we all written to the Attorney General to ask her what action is to be taken to bring BT to account for the illegal interception of web communications in 2006 and 2007? Polite letters please to:

Lady Scotland of Asthal
Attorney General
20 Victoria Street
London
SW1H 0NF

[mark777]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/...ndard&x=5&y=10

Alexander,

All the books you had on your list that can be bought, have been.

Unless you have another 'wodge' of books that you *know for certain* you will have to buy, we will need to arrange a fighting fund.

Everyone,

Florence had some good ideas. I can't find the post (took 20 mins to find the wish list!), but we need to sort something out tomorrow. I'll post this again at a 'peak' time.

[AlexanderHanff]

Mark,

Wow I hadn't had a chance to check the list yet so didn't realise they had all been bought. Thanks everyone.

I am setting up www.privacyonline.org.uk over the next couple of weeks and I will put a donation link on the site to help pay for hosting and expenses so if people want to they can. It has turned out quite expensive so far (about £250 for both trips to London and I will have to hire a car to visit the Earl of Northesk as I don't want to risk my head gasket going all the way up in Scotland) but fortunately my student loans arrived last Monday so I have been able to cover it all. I will be starting my taxi driving job in June which will keep things on a financial level footing and hopefully pay the fees for my Masters in October; so things should be ok and I don't want people to start making donations they can't afford that would just be silly.

Plus it is a little embarrassing for me when people talk about donating and buying books. Don't get me wrong it is very much and sincerely appreciated, moving even, but I didn't start this work 2 months ago to make a buck, I didn't even expect to be in anything like the position I am currently in with regards being an unofficial spokesperson and going to these important events. I was just appalled by the news of Phorm and wanted to do something to try and stop it. That remains true to this day, spending my own money to try and stop this technology from deployed and the future seeing more and more function creep is not something I see as a burden, it is something I see as essential in order to protect the rights of my son, my partner, my family, my friends and everyone else.

Kent accused me of being in this for self promotion today, which was a particularly unpleasant thing to say and is utterly wrong.

Alexander Hanff

[Florence]

You miss understood Kent Alexander he was talking about himself then WE all know you are in this because you are our best hope of winning nothing more or less and like the rest of us feel Kent is untrustworthy.

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Mark,

Wow I hadn't had a chance to check the list yet so didn't realise they had all been bought. Thanks everyone.

I am setting up www.privacyonline.org.uk over the next couple of weeks and I will put a donation link on the site to help pay for hosting and expenses so if people want to they can. It has turned out quite expensive so far (about £250 for both trips to London and I will have to hire a car to visit the Earl of Northesk as I don't want to risk my head gasket going all the way up in Scotland) but fortunately my student loans arrived last Monday so I have been able to cover it all. I will be starting my taxi driving job in June which will keep things on a financial level footing and hopefully pay the fees for my Masters in October; so things should be ok and I don't want people to start making donations they can't afford that would just be silly.

Plus it is a little embarrassing for me when people talk about donating and buying books. Don't get me wrong it is very much and sincerely appreciated, moving even, but I didn't start this work 2 months ago to make a buck, I didn't even expect to be in anything like the position I am currently in with regards being an unofficial spokesperson and going to these important events. I was just appalled by the news of Phorm and wanted to do something to try and stop it. That remains true to this day, spending my own money to try and stop this technology from deployed and the future seeing more and more function creep is not something I see as a burden, it is something I see as essential in order to protect the rights of my son, my partner, my family, my friends and everyone else.

Kent accused me of being in this for self promotion today, which was a particularly unpleasant thing to say and is utterly wrong.

Alexander Hanff

Just keep on keeping on Alexander. You are doing a grand job and have my heartfelt thanks.

As regards Kent's remark I would expect any reasonable person to see it as an almighty example of him shooting himself in the foot by revealing what a petty, small minded individual he apparently is.

[Florence]

Originally Posted by mark777

Alexander,

All the books you had on your list that can be bought, have been.

Unless you have another 'wodge' of books that you *know for certain* you will have to buy, we will need to arrange a fighting fund.

Everyone,

Florence had some good ideas. I can't find the post (took 20 mins to find the wish list!), but we need to sort something out tomorrow. I'll post this again at a 'peak' time.

Still one that can be bought but it is used then again the book is out of print so used it would have to be..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...&condition=all

I reallyu don't know where the other book can be sourced from..

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by Florence

Still one that can be bought but it is used then again the book is out of print so used it would have to be..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...&condition=all

I reallyu don't know where the other book can be sourced from..

I only added those with the hopes that they might become available in the future. I will check it periodically just on the off chance. Given how much that BIG book on Human Rights dropped in price over night I figured anything is possible. I don't think other people can buy used books from the list, I never realised that at the time.

Alexander Hanff

[OldBear]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Kent accused me of being in this for self promotion today, which was a particularly unpleasant thing to say and is utterly wrong.

Of course it's wrong; the man is a fool!

If I recall correctly, the ideas to pay for your expenses and/or you posting a books wish list were made by forum members, who refused to take no for an answer from you when you said it wasn't necessary.

Kent's remarks, as Mick says, show him to be nothing more than a petty, small minded man.

I, for one, will definitely contribute towards the cost of running your new site; you've earned it IMHO.

OB

[mark777]

Get your site on-line asap, Alexander, so we can carry on making some contributions. Multi-millionaire Kent accused you of being in it for the money.

Given the man clearly has no class, you can explain his behaviour, Squeeky-botty time.

Do you know when the interview is going to be on the box?

I must admit, I'm starting to get a bit of a rosey glow about phorm/webwise and the BBC.

[Florence]

Well I am off to get some sleep and Alexander after all Kent has put you through time to get a drink and go off to dream of a phormless future.