Eurozone will collapse...

I have no doubt that it will be a disaster - but all things are relative. Greece staying in the Euro is also a disaster. The question is, which is worse? The answer is something the Eurocracy and other assorted enthusiasts seems not to want to engage with. They simply repeat the mantra that Grexit would be disastrous whilst refusing to engage with current reality.

[Osem]

The Eurocrats are behaving like rabbits staring at car headlights and the markets are clearly already factoring in a Greek default. In their haste to build their very own superstate, they've probably done more harm to that grand ambition than any Eurosceptic could've managed.

Never had Abbott down as a Eurosceptic but then I never had her down as a person who'd send her child to a private school...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

Secretly i bet there are a few national leaders ,including our own , that would love the Eurozone to collapse because they could then use it to cover up their own inadequacies in running their own domestic financies

I WANT the euro zone to go into meltdown. Then we can start to rebuild around the original open market

I just want the Brussels gravy train to come to an end and the idea of a federal Europe to be dropped.

[Sirius]

Where is Alan Fry you would think he would be here screaming from the forum roof tops about his united europe

[Osem]

What provision is there in the EU rules for the social implications of dire circumstances such as these I wonder. For example, what's to stop Spanish, Greek or whatever, unemployed youths pitching up en masse elsewhere in the EU and creating additional financial and social burdens there?

As long as the Eurocrats remain in denial about the problems being faced across Europe, the financial uncertainties and risks of chaos increase.

If a load of Greeks wash up on our shores with their Euro-denominated life savings in a soggy carpet bag, then I'm all for it. They can open restaurants and help fuel our recovery. They might just find it a bit harder to dodge the tax man over here though.

Originally Posted by Chris

If a load of Greeks wash up on our shores with their Euro-denominated life savings in a soggy carpet bag, then I'm all for it. They can open restaurants and help fuel our recovery. They might just find it a bit harder to dodge the tax man over here though.

There would be smashed plates and Feta cheese everywhere

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Damien

There would be smashed plates and Feta cheese everywhere

I can accept that more than some of the inherited issues we have had to put up with from some areas of the EU, like hole in the wall fruad and credit card copying. There is one area of the EU that has member who excel in begging. So a bit of plate smashing is nothing


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[Osem]

Does anyone think the Eurocrats ever had a 'Plan B'....

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Originally Posted by Chris

If a load of Greeks wash up on our shores with their Euro-denominated life savings in a soggy carpet bag, then I'm all for it. They can open restaurants and help fuel our recovery. They might just find it a bit harder to dodge the tax man over here though.

That's what's supposed to have happened when times were good. Now times are hard, jobs thin on the ground, benefits and services under extreme pressure, it's likely to stir up a whole lot of resentment and trouble I'd have thought. We have friends who emigrated to Greece a few years ago and don't like the anti-foreigner resentment they're starting to see.

It's a serious question. What could any EU member state do if they found themselves being flooded with EU migrants seeking work, housing, benefits etc. etc. as a result of some major financial collapse in their own country?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Osem

Does anyone think the Eurocrats ever had a 'Plan B'....

I think that would be a big fat NO

All they are interested in is lining there pockets with our money

Originally Posted by Sirius

I WANT the euro zone to go into meltdown. Then we can start to rebuild around the original open market

Yep ,i would go with that .It might even be worth thinking about righting off all debts and just starting again only this time with fully elected officials

Originally Posted by Sirius

Where is Alan Fry you would think he would be here screaming from the forum roof tops about his united europe

still banned i believe

[Dai]

Originally Posted by Nomad2075

Absolutely, utter denial, never wanting to actually admit there is a problem, just shifting the blame.

The 5 stages of Greece..

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/k%C...-stages-greece

[Osem]

Merkel 'suggests' Greek referendum

Greek officials said Chancellor Angela Merkel had suggested Greece could hold a referendum on the euro when it votes in national elections next month.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18121414

Since when was Greece part of Germany?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Osem

Since when was Greece part of Germany?

Since Germany decided it ruled Europe