Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Eurozone will collapse...

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Eurozone will collapse...
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 16-05-2012, 22:05   #691
Chris
Trollsplatter
Cable Forum Team
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 36,929
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

I'm getting heartily sick of the BBC's one-sided reporting of this issue. Every night the news at ten repeats the mantra "disaster, disaster, disaster" without any attempt to contrast with the likely effects of the Eurozone stumbling on as it is.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 16-05-2012, 22:08   #692
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 71
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,163
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Well don't you think they can only report what the majority of those they interview are saying..
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2012, 22:13   #693
Osem
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Right here!
Posts: 22,316
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Maybe they need to stop asking the same people.
Osem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2012, 22:16   #694
Chris
Trollsplatter
Cable Forum Team
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 36,929
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J View Post
Well don't you think they can only report what the majority of those they interview are saying..
And you think they're above the temptation to pick and choose who to interview? Where are the likes of Dan Hannan, Nigel Farage or any of the many economists who have long argued that the whole idea of a single currency was abject nonsense?

Anyway, most of the time they're not interviewing people, unless you count Huw Edwards chatting to Peston, Flanders or Robinson across a table in the studio.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2012, 22:21   #695
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 71
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,163
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Then stop watching the BBC Chris..There is always Sky..or CNN or whatever you can find on Freeview.

Sadly I dare not watch what used to be my standby from the navel watching obsessions of the usual 24 hour news channels.Euronews is no comfort at present.
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-05-2012, 22:39   #696
jempalmer
Guest
 
Location: West Sussex
Services: 500gb Tivo & V+. TV XL, 60MB BB, M Phone.
Posts: n/a
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

The really worrying aspect of this whole debacle, at least from my point of view, is that regardless of how it's reported and the interviewees, it was an utter disaster from the outset. I just pray that the whole stupidly, ill-conceived and politically driven 'unification' chokes on it's own hubris. Okay, rant over
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2012, 09:24   #697
martyh
Guest
 
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle Sky Q 2TB box Sky Q mini box Sky fibre unlimited Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Secretly i bet there are a few national leaders ,including our own , that would love the Eurozone to collapse because they could then use it to cover up their own inadequacies in running their own domestic financies
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2012, 09:39   #698
jempalmer
Guest
 
Location: West Sussex
Services: 500gb Tivo & V+. TV XL, 60MB BB, M Phone.
Posts: n/a
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh View Post
Secretly i bet there are a few national leaders ,including our own , that would love the Eurozone to collapse because they could then use it to cover up their own inadequacies in running their own domestic financies
'Every nation state gets a clean slate', we could write a song about that children. Maybe some of the Python team might help out
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2012, 12:21   #699
Osem
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Right here!
Posts: 22,316
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Here's the video of Balls getting his slapping for anyone who's interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEPYVcBgW4k

Not many answers there Ed mate....

Miliband's doing the same right now on Sky - lots of criticism of where we are now but no answers and no acknowledgement of the role successive governments have played in that (including 13 years of his crew in power).

They seem to be saying that the UK has no influence in the Eurozone but that Cameron should be exercising some....
Osem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2012, 13:17   #700
martyh
Guest
 
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle Sky Q 2TB box Sky Q mini box Sky fibre unlimited Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Here's the video of Balls getting his slapping for anyone who's interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEPYVcBgW4k

Not many answers there Ed mate....

Miliband's doing the same right now on Sky - lots of criticism of where we are now but no answers and no acknowledgement of the role successive governments have played in that (including 13 years of his crew in power).

They seem to be saying that the UK has no influence in the Eurozone but that Cameron should be exercising some....
They all seem as empty headed as the most vacuous Essex girl that you will ever meet
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-05-2012, 13:34   #701
Dai
Inactive
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lincoln UK
Age: 75
Services: 50Mb, TV & Phone
Posts: 3,673
Dai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronze
Dai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronzeDai is cast in bronze
Send a message via MSN to Dai
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh View Post
They all seem as empty headed as the most vacuous Essex girl that you will ever meet
If any of them actually told the truth it would be political and electoral suicide. Given a choice between career prospects and morality it appears that most decide the first option pays better.
Dai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2012, 08:04   #702
Osem
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Right here!
Posts: 22,316
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
France's new finance minister has reiterated that the country's new socialist government will not ratify the European Union's (EU) fiscal pact.

Pierre Moscovici said the pact would have to include provisions for growth before France signed up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18101338

and in other news:

Quote:
Ratings agency Moody's has cut the credit ratings of 16 Spanish banks, a further blow to a country that is struggling to deal with the bad debts of its banking sector. It also cut the debt rating on Santander UK, a subsidiary of the Spanish banking giant. It comes after shares in struggling lender Bankia fell another 14%. They have almost halved in value this month.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18100049
Osem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2012, 10:54   #703
Osem
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Right here!
Posts: 22,316
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Osem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered starsOsem is seeing silvered stars
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy View Post
Source

Seems the presses are being warmed up to print off Drachmas at De La Rue. Maybe they know something the politicians aren't prepared to admit
Hm... Maybe they'll stop printing Sterling for a bit while they're doing it..
Osem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2012, 11:06   #704
Chris
Trollsplatter
Cable Forum Team
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North of Watford
Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests
Posts: 36,929
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Chris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden auraChris has a golden aura
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Did anyone else see that poor Greek stand-up comic getting lectured by Abbott and Portillo on This Week last night?

The poor woman was commissioned to make a short report on how awful things are back in the country of her birth, in which she repeated the often-claimed but rarely argued position that Greece has to stay in the Euro because the Drachma would be a disaster. Back in the studio she looked like a shame-faced sixth-former getting carpeted by the headmaster for turning in a substandard politics essay.

I was surprised to find out just how Euro-sceptic Diane Abbott is, but even more surprised to hear Michael Portillo take so much time to acknowledge the domestic downside of Grexit followed by devaluation, although he did still say he believed Greece quitting the Euro was a good idea on balance. Both of them shared the view that it was always bound to end up this way.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-05-2012, 11:08   #705
Damien
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
 
Damien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,228
Damien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver bling
Damien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver blingDamien has a lot of silver bling
Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Did anyone else see that poor Greek stand-up comic getting lectured by Abbott and Portillo on This Week last night?

The poor woman was commissioned to make a short report on how awful things are back in the country of her birth, in which she repeated the often-claimed but rarely argued position that Greece has to stay in the Euro because the Drachma would be a disaster. Back in the studio she looked like a shame-faced sixth-former getting carpeted by the headmaster for turning in a substandard politics essay.

I was surprised to find out just how Euro-sceptic Diane Abbott is, but even more surprised to hear Michael Portillo take so much time to acknowledge the domestic downside of Grexit followed by devaluation, although he did still say he believed Greece quitting the Euro was a good idea on balance. Both of them shared the view that it was always bound to end up this way.
The Economist had an article today stating that Greece leaving the Euro would be a disaster but that it's probably going to happen anyway. Most of the things I have read suggest that this is the common view. It seems like forces outside of everyone's control are conspiring to cause Greece to leave regardless of the arguments against it.
Damien is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:49.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.