Pay frozen for third year running

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

P.S. I do not want to abolish Capitalism and Democracy, but radically reform it!!!

I agree with that. It's just that the rest of what you have been talking is utter, utter, horsepoo.......but it's given me a great laugh

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I agree with that. It's just that the rest of what you have been talking is utter, utter, horsepoo.......but it's given me a great laugh

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Your record is stuck

No, the only records that are stuck are you and your friends

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

I agree with that. It's just that the rest of what you have been talking is utter, utter, horsepoo.......but it's given me a great laugh

FOR GOD SAKE I am not talking rubbish, the only ones are talking rubbish are people who defend a failed system

Got any better ideas?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Got any better ideas?

The same old record that is stuck.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Got any better ideas?

Whatever they might be they don't involve a new world order and a single world government

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

FOR GOD SAKE I am not talking rubbish, the only ones are talking rubbish are people who defend a failed system

You are talking complete and utter drivel, and while I have almost split my sides laughing at you and your nonsense, its time to wrap it up and at least try and get this back on topic and sensible.

Time to stop with the rubbish now. If you dont have anything sensible to say, move on to another topic.



(and yes, I/we will decide if what you say is sensible)

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Paul M

You are talking complete and utter drivel, and while I have almost split my sides laughing at you and your nonsense, its time to wrap it up and at least try and get this back on topic and sensible.

Time to stop with the rubbish now. If you dont have anything sensible to say, move on to another topic.



(and yes, I/we will decide if what you say is sensible)

For Goodness sake I am not talking drivel!!!

I can see that you don't agree that we need radical reforms to democracy and Capitalism, but just because I am not agreeing with the "staus quo" does not mean I talk rubbish!!!

I do not think that other CF users the defend a failed system have a right to deiside if what I say is sensible!!!

The only people that are saying rubbish and utter drivel are CR userswho defend a failed economic, social and poltical system

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I do not think that other CF users the defend a failed system have a right to deiside if what I say is sensible!!!

They do when they are admin.

By the way you do realise you ARE one of the '%1' don't you?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

They do when they are admin.

By the way you do realise you ARE one of the '%1' don't you?

Not the 1%!

[dilli-theclaw]

Yes you clearly are.

But I digress - I was just pointing out that admin CAN tell you what to do and if you wish to continue posting it would be wise for you to listen.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

Yes you clearly are.

But I digress - I was just pointing out that admin CAN tell you what to do and if you wish to continue posting it would be wise for you to listen.

I am pretty well of, but I am not rich or a member of the 1%

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The only people that are saying rubbish and utter drivel are CR userswho defend a failed economic, social and poltical system

For goodness sake change the sodding record you have worn your last one out.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I am pretty well of, but I am not rich or a member of the 1%

So your a hypocrite as well. Hope you paid your tax

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Sirius

For goodness sake change the sodding record you have worn your last one out.

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So your a hypocrite as well. Hope you paid your tax

But I am NOT RICH and I have paid my tax

The only records that worn ours are ones the play a failed system!

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

www.skynews.com Just announced on Sky, that 1.6 million council workers have there pay frozen for third year in a row.

That will also effect myself, what the hell is going wrong with this government, l blaming them for this terrible clamp down on local authorities on the budgets they apply to paying staff.

In my job l have not had a pay rise in three years and been told that from 2013 l will get 1% rise.

We are now struggling to pay bills, which l am now finding financial problems, what is important to pay and what not to pay, you go to car parks, these have all increased, everything has gone up.

This government has no idea on what is happening to the voter, they are forcing to work FREE for there benefit, with some companies pulling out of this arrangement as it is causing tensions.

Electric, water, petrol, coal all important materials that we all use and have to pay for, but pay is frozen - how the hell does the voter survive.

Arthur, looking at the bright side, those 1.6 million council workers may have had a pay freeze, but they have jobs. A lot of people don't.

Not that I am saying everything is all right. It's not. You are right, a lot of big companies are increasing prices to customers, reducing staffing levels, offshoring what remaining staff they can, all while reporting record profit levels (Tescos for instance).

Someone (the Government, presumably) needs to bring these companies back into line. By making it harder to send jobs off shore, and taking action to bring pricing to reasonable levels.

In short, the Government needs to do a lot more to protect the voter. You know, the people who put them in power.. I do think our current Government is failing in that duty, but this isn't a party political thing. I think successive Governments since at least the 80s have failed to do this. I don't know about the 60s or before, but it seemed as though Governments in the 70s also failed to protect the voter in this way, but they favoured the Unions rather than business.