Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16191487

surprise ,surprise didn't see that one comming did we

Money grabbing sons of BLEEPs

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Chris

Go, Boris!

Given Ken seems hell bent on sabotaging his own campaign he doesn't have to try that hard.

Anyway surely this is the final straw. They have shown any form of national pride or decency is gone, they are total money grabbers quite happy to hold the country to ransom and I won't shed any tears if the tube gets automated and the unemployment figures take a small hit.

Originally Posted by Derek

Given Ken seems hell bent on sabotaging his own campaign he doesn't have to try that hard.

Anyway surely this is the final straw. They have shown any form of national pride or decency is gone, they are total money grabbers quite happy to hold the country to ransom and I won't shed any tears if the tube gets automated and the unemployment figures take a small hit.

I am a public sector worker and along with many others will not get a penny from the olympics but i do not begrude others if they are getting what they can,after all is that not others do that are in a position of power.

It is ill concieved that one set of public sector workers rails against another.

I bet the Police fedaration wish they had a spokesperson like the rail workers do.

Originally Posted by richard1960

I am a public sector worker and along with many others will not get a penny from the olympics but i do not begrude others if they are getting what they can,after all is that not others do that are in a position of power.

It is ill concieved that one set of public sector workers rails against another.

I bet the Police fedaration wish they had a spokesperson like the rail workers do.

With respect Richard but an agreement was already in place re pay and they should stick to that .Threatening industrial action when such an agreement is in place is bad enough but threatening it during the Olympics is unjustifiable .The drivers are probably some of the best paid manual workers in the country ,they are already paid well over the odds comparatively speaking for the job they do but to seek a bonus just for working during the Olympics when they will normally be working anyway is just plain wrong and will gain no support from the public in general

[Derek]

Originally Posted by richard1960

I bet the Police fedaration wish they had a spokesperson like the rail workers do.

If a Fed rep threatened to hold the country to ransom he'd be jailed...

Originally Posted by martyh

With respect Richard but an agreement was already in place re pay and they should stick to that .Threatening industrial action when such an agreement is in place is bad enough but threatening it during the Olympics is unjustifiable .The drivers are probably some of the best paid manual workers in the country ,they are already paid well over the odds comparatively speaking for the job they do but to seek a bonus just for working during the Olympics when they will normally be working anyway is just plain wrong and will gain no support from the public in general

To some extent i agree martyh but Boris in London did promise to negotiate a no stirke agreement but has not done so with the tube drivers,are they paid over the odds its hard to know that unless a comparison is made with similar workers with respect.

Are there any private sector companies offering staff incentives i wonder its hard to konw as if there are its not been well publicised.

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Originally Posted by Derek

If a Fed rep threatened to hold the country to ransom he'd be jailed...

With respect Derek in the past the police have done rather well and deservedly so no argument there,but the time is coming that the police will need a robust defender maybe not to threaten industrial action but to defend terms and conditons.

All public sector workers make no mistake will be under the cosh.

Originally Posted by richard1960

To some extent i agree martyh but Boris in London did promise to negotiate a no stirke agreement but has not done so with the tube drivers,are they paid over the odds its hard to know that unless a comparison is made with similar workers with respect.

Are there any private sector companies offering staff incentives i wonder its hard to konw as if there are its not been well publicised.

Boris should not have had to negotiate a new agreement as one was already in place ,it is the Unions and their members that have thrown the existing agreement in the bin

Originally Posted by martyh

Boris should not have had to negotiate a new agreement as one was already in place ,it is the Unions and their members that have thrown the existing agreement in the bin

Well lBoris should have known this before promising to negotiate one in the 2008 mayoral election.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...london08.boris

But hey you know me i am very sympathetic with working people but i am not always right mate.

[mertle]

Originally Posted by martyh

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16191487

surprise ,surprise didn't see that one comming did we

these train drivers of underground should tread carefully they soon will get automated driverless if they not careful. The technology there to do it too.

Surely 55,000 way over the top wage and to turn down 850 compo for working during olympics is madness what planet theyre on. They trying to outdo MP's bleeding the country dry.

35k max should be more enough wage. I might upset people but for us northern folk the impression you get. It to me shows everything whats wrong about the country as whole. South east and the atitudes to expect criminal high wages ahead the rest country. Greed pure greed take this problem about standard living in south east. If wages was not stupid the houses would not sell would have to come down to sensible level. force the market down sensible wages to parity to rest country would stop the need for crazy wages.

Therefore upping wages so high just shoves prices into orbit. So while the rest country suffer the austerity south east bleeds the nation dry for its drive to crazy wages to support catch 22.

Originally Posted by richard1960

Well lBoris should have known this before promising to negotiate one in the 2008 mayoral election.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...london08.boris

But hey you know me i am very sympathetic with working people but i am not always right mate.

If i thought for one moment they had a justyfiable claim i would be fairly and squarely behind them but this just smacks of greed and blackmail

Originally Posted by richard1960

I am a public sector worker and along with many others will not get a penny from the olympics but i do not begrude others if they are getting what they can,after all is that not others do that are in a position of power.

It is ill concieved that one set of public sector workers rails against another.

I bet the Police fedaration wish they had a spokesperson like the rail workers do.

Never mind the police..Us teachers wish we had as good representatives..If I wasn't the wrong side of 30 I think I'd apply to be a tube driver..

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I think if they tried to automate the tube, they are looking at grave dangers, what about public safety, what if a train derails in the tunnels.

Some people don't have common sense, you might have driverless trains on the Docklands railway, but they don't cover the entire tube network do they.

I would never drive a tube train, they do deserve there pay, and do deserve extra money for working longer hours during the games.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think if they tried to automate the tube, they are looking at grave dangers, what about public safety, what if a train derails in the tunnels.

Some people don't have common sense, you might have driverless trains on the Docklands railway, but they don't cover the entire tube network do they.
I would never drive a tube train, they do deserve there pay, and do deserve extra money for working longer hours during the games.

Not at the moment, but they could, and probably will over the next few years.

Why should a tube driver get paid more than 50% more than someone who risks their life to save others, and have to deal with the carnage if there is a derailment?

There are many people who work in the public sector will have to do far more work during the olympics, but will get no more money, have had a pay freeze for three years, and are due a pay cut due to extra pensions contributions.

Originally Posted by martyh

If i thought for one moment they had a justyfiable claim i would be fairly and squarely behind them but this just smacks of greed and blackmail

Well it certainly can be viewed as a little greedy but sadly greed and sefishness abound in todays society not defending it you only have to loook around to see it.

If those at the top showed a tad more restraint then those lower down the pecking order might start to listen.

You only have to look at local councils where many cheif executives are enjoying inflation busting rises whilst the workers below them enjoy a pay freeze.

I hope in the end the Tube Drivers settle for the offer they have got now and stop demanding more as the offer recieved is more then fair.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Well it certainly can be viewed as a little greedy but sadly greed and sefishness abound in todays society not defending it you only have to loook around to see it.

If those at the top showed a tad more restraint then those lower down the pecking order might start to listen.

You only have to look at local councils where many cheif executives are enjoying inflation busting rises whilst the workers below them enjoy a pay freeze.

I hope in the end the Tube Drivers settle for the offer they have got now and stop demanding more as the offer recieved is more then fair.

Agreed