The energy crisis - Page 160

SnoopZ · 23-10-2023, 22:45

Not very smart are they? Lol

**Paul** · 24-10-2023, 02:40

Well yes, presumably they will become dumb meters that you need to read.

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The government claims this replacement exercise will cost ‘about’ £2 for each household

In what world ?
I doubt that would cover the meter cost, let alone the engineer time.

Jaymoss · 24-10-2023, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Paul

Well yes, presumably they will become dumb meters that you need to read.

In what world ?
I doubt that would cover the meter cost, let alone the engineer time.

I think they might mean every household in the country making the cost tens of millions

GrimUpNorth · 24-10-2023, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

I think they might mean every household in the country making the cost tens of millions

Yes, because heaven forbid the utility company will take the hit in profits by funding the meter themselves.

jfman · 24-10-2023, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

I think they might mean every household in the country making the cost tens of millions

I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?

£8 wouldn’t pay someone to cross your door, let alone start playing around with meters and equipment, test, and leave. Their hourly rate would be far in excess of this, before anyone even adds the cost of new meters/modules.

1andrew1 · 24-10-2023, 13:13

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Originally Posted by jfman

I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?

£8 wouldn’t pay someone to cross your door, let alone start playing around with meters and equipment, test, and leave. Their hourly rate would be far in excess of this, before anyone even adds the cost of new meters/modules.

Would they just post it and the user plugs it in, in place of the old smart meter?

joglynne · 24-10-2023, 13:13

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Originally Posted by jfman

I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?

£8 wouldn’t pay someone to cross your door, let alone start playing around with meters and equipment, test, and leave. Their hourly rate would be far in excess of this, before anyone even adds the cost of new meters/modules.

Probably a daft question but .....Couldn't the change over be done by a remote software change/update. I know when my smart meter was playing up Octopus gave it a long distance kick to make it behave.

heero_yuy · 24-10-2023, 13:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Would they just post it and the user plugs it in, in place of the old smart meter?

That's only the remote user display. The actual smart meter is hard wired into the main power feed to the fusebox.

**Chris** · 24-10-2023, 13:39

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Originally Posted by joglynne

Probably a daft question but .....Couldn't the change over be done by a remote software change/update. I know when my smart meter was playing up Octopus gave it a long distance kick to make it behave.

If they’re wired for 2G or 3G and they need 4G they will require different hardware. I guess there might be a swappable module inside them but it might mean a full replacement.

spiderplant · 24-10-2023, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Chris

I guess there might be a swappable module inside them

That's what the article says.

I've just been to look at mine. The swappable module is not going to be cheap, and is not user replaceable (the screws have tamper-evident seals on)

**Paul** · 24-10-2023, 19:02

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Originally Posted by jfman

I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?

I dont think all 28 million have smart meters, esp older ones.

jfman · 24-10-2023, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Paul

I dont think all 28 million have smart meters, esp older ones.

Apologies - I think Jaymoss was saying they were using the figure for all households (28 million-ish) when they arrived at £2, and just not those with smart meters (around 7m).

So the whole cost of the exercise £56m instead of £14m. However, it still seems very small.

Sephiroth · 24-10-2023, 19:11

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Originally Posted by jfman

Apologies - I think Jaymoss was saying they were using the figure for all households (28 million-ish) when they arrived at £2, and just not those with smart meters (around 7m).

So the whole cost of the exercise £56m instead of £14m. However, it still seems very small.

See HS2 for details!

Jaymoss · 24-10-2023, 19:12

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Originally Posted by jfman

Apologies - I think Jaymoss was saying they were using the figure for all households (28 million-ish) when they arrived at £2, and just not those with smart meters (around 7m).

So the whole cost of the exercise £56m instead of £14m. However, it still seems very small.

Depends how they cost it

If they cost total cost of the job then it will be a lot more but if they factor in the guys are working for them anyway so labour costs are not included then it will be only the cost of the parts. Selling £2 per household costs is a lot more palatable that a tenner +

jfman · 24-10-2023, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Depends how they cost it

If they cost total cost of the job then it will be a lot more but if they factor in the guys are working for them anyway so labour costs are not included then it will be only the cost of the parts. Selling £2 per household costs is a lot more palatable that a tenner +

It's also a lie.