Virgin Media to Double Broadband Speed

[thenry]

smoothly? theres better cables/standards to aid high speeds

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

So pray tell us why CAT5 sucks? Within 100m it'll still do gigabit..

it might do it but it isnt supposed to. I am sure cat5 is rated for 100mbit and cate for 1gbit. The way things are going these days with gigabit NICs and gigabit switches it makes sense to use ensure all your hardware operating at the physcial layer is rated for the same speed to avoid any problems.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

I am sure cat5 is rated for 100mbit and cate for 1gbit.

I know you aren't supposed to rely on Wikipedia but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable

Category 5 cabling is most commonly used for faster Ethernet networks, such as 100BASE-TX and 1000BASE-T.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000BASE-T#1000BASE-T

Each 1000BASE-T network segment can be a maximum length of 100 meters

[thenry]

along with that old link you posted not long supporting cat5 Ben

[starfish]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

There are two different 100Mbit tiers.

'100' was the one that was introduced as part of the 100Mbit rollout. This was sold up till the beginning of March for existing customers and cost more than XXL 50. This has a 10Mbit upload

From that point onwards existing customers wanting 100Mbit as an upgrade or part of a Collection get XXL 100. This has a 5Mbit upload as it's XXL with the downstream doubled from 50 to 100Mbit

The reason for this is I would expect is to help manage upstream capacity in each area

Thank you for the explanation, Ben, it makes sense now.

[Rob King]

does any one know if the 120mb will be unlimited like the 100mb is now

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Rob King

does any one know if the 120mb will be unlimited like the 100mb is now

This should answer your question i hope.

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/ST...ove_800pxA.jpg

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/s...MER_TYPE=Cable

[Rob King]

it only shows the 100mb stm

[Sherlock Holmes]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

existing customers wanting 100Mbit as an upgrade or part of a Collection get XXL 100. This has a 5Mbit upload

Out of interest, what upload speed would a new customer get if they took the 100 meg broadband or a collection package with 100 meg?

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Rob King

does any one know if the 120mb will be unlimited like the 100mb is now

it is absolutely definitely 100% not going to unlimited because they are banging all the 50mbit users up to 100mbit with the rest of us, then all of use are going up to 120mbit. 100mbit isn't unlimited atm. It was stm free a couple of weeks ago and on 2nd April they introduced a new stm policy for all tiers. Not only is stm going to remain in place, it wouldn't surprise me if we got screwed over and they continued to use the current limits and not increase them proportionally.

Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes

Out of interest, what upload speed would a new customer get if they took the 100 meg broadband or a collection package with 100 meg?

afaik because the prices have come down now, everyone is being put onto 100/5 until the upgrades have been completed

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by thenry

smoothly? theres better cables/standards to aid high speeds

Originally Posted by General Maximus

it might do it but it isnt supposed to. I am sure cat5 is rated for 100mbit and cate for 1gbit. The way things are going these days with gigabit NICs and gigabit switches it makes sense to use ensure all your hardware operating at the physcial layer is rated for the same speed to avoid any problems.

Cat5 is designed to handle 100m of gigabit and cat5e 320m so I don't understand this fallacy that it "sucks"

In fact there's very little difference between the cable itself and the only reason as to why cat5e is supplied these days is that it's been superseded in manufacturing by cat5e with all of the factories only making the higher spec..

I wonder how few vm customers actually need the 100m to 320m capability of Cat5e??? and how many people would actually realize if you swapped all of their cat5e for cat5

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

afaik because the prices have come down now, everyone is being put onto 100/5 until the upgrades have been completed

I'm still on 100/10

[Sherlock Holmes]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

afaik because the prices have come down now, everyone is being put onto 100/5 until the upgrades have been completed

Would make sense.

Some suspect they are being capped at 2.7 up while their area is having the upgrade work completed aswell




Cheers

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Cat5 is designed to handle 100m of gigabit and cat5e 320m so I don't understand this fallacy that it "sucks"

In fact there's very little difference between the cable itself and the only reason as to why cat5e is supplied these days is that it's been superseded in manufacturing by cat5e with all of the factories only making the higher spec..

I wonder how few vm customers actually need the 100m to 320m capability of Cat5e??? and how many people would actually realize if you swapped all of their cat5e for cat5

not sure why you keep saying gigabit.. it would suck on cat5.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by thenry

not sure why you keep saying gigabit.. it would suck on cat5.

Why would it when Cat5 is capable of doing it up to 100m?