General : TV360

[beaker17]

After a week playing with TV360 and getting used to the handset and screen navigation, I find TV360 the best innovation since sliced bread and highly recommend it.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by beaker17

After a week playing with TV360 and getting used to the handset and screen navigation, I find TV360 the best innovation since sliced bread and highly recommend it.

There is nothing particularly wrong with what it actually does for the most part, it's what it doesn't do that's the problem. The series links are terrible though.

[beaker17]

Originally Posted by Mythica

There is nothing particularly wrong with what it actually does for the most part, it's what it doesn't do that's the problem. The series links are terrible though.

TV360 records series perfectly, books them a week or so ahead, see nothing wrong at all.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by beaker17

TV360 records series perfectly, books them a week or so ahead, see nothing wrong at all.

There is loads wrong with it. There is no real series link home page to see what series links you have and change options for each series. You can't also set a series link for something that isn't planned in the guide. For instance, on the V6, you can search The Apprentice and set a series link and then it will record whenever it's on, be that in 9 months. On the 360, you simply can't do that, which means you have to wait till you know its on, which is sometimes too late.

The above is even more annoying when you've transferred from the V6 to the 360 and have lost 100+ series links. Even if only 50 of them are shows that are ongoing series, that's 50 series links you're missing until you've realised it's too late and it's already started the series.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, it’s not a recording in the true sense. It is bookmarking. Your ‘record’ button is pressed, and the box bookmarks the programme that’s sitting there in the ‘cloud’ for all to access as they want it. It’s basically just an on demand system.

Exactly, it's bound to be. Why would they actually record thousands of copies of the same programme when they could all simply access the one copy?

It's as ridiculous as suggesting that we should/would all have our own private on demand stream for Eastenders!!

It's all rather acedemic though as it's not available in the UK and won't ever be unless the rights owners change their minds over the issue. .

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin

You really have to laugh at Richard who, from a position of no knowledge, makes poor guesses of functionality simply so he can have a go at an organisation that he hates for some unreasonable reason.

I refer you to my previous response where you spoke such nonsense in order to be deliberately vexatious, whilst adding nothing of value to the conversation..

[RobboEdin]

Richard, in your opinion, I am talking nonsense.
You are talking a load of rubbish from a position where you know nothing about TV 360 or its future.
I am allowed my opinion on you and your opinions.

[RichardCoulter]

Then play the ball and not the man.

[1701-e]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Exactly, it's bound to be. Why would they actually record thousands of copies of the same programme when they could all simply access the one copy?.

So there's no source. Just a guess.

Why do you post as fact when you don't KNOW?

[RichardCoulter]

If this ever came to the UK, do you really think that every person who wants to 'record' Eastenders will have numerous separate personalised recordings made for them?

They are obviously going to use the VOD stream, at best they may record one for everyone to access if the VOD stream expires before the year is up if they cannot get it extended.

I wouldn't get too upset about it as it's not available in the UK and, going by previous attempts, isn't likely to be.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I wouldn't get too upset about it as it's not available in the UK and, going by previous attempts, isn't likely to be.

Who has done it previously?

[nodrogd]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If this ever came to the UK, do you really think that every person who wants to 'record' Eastenders will have numerous separate personalised recordings made for them?

They are obviously going to use the VOD stream, at best they may record one for everyone to access if the VOD stream expires before the year is up if they cannot get it extended.

I wouldn't get too upset about it as it's not available in the UK and, going by previous attempts, isn't likely to be.

The rest of the Liberty Global companies have had the cloud facility getting for 5 years now. The number of broadcasters blocking it has reduced to the extent that some functionality is now available in Sky Stream. But with broadcast services diminishing the market for will also shrink. The “hybrid” model Sky have introduced is likely what will happen on VM eventually.

https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/sky-st...ing-explained/

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1701-e

What is your source of information?

If it was this system then why would there be a limit on recordable hours?

Neither you or Richard have any legitimate source m. Why don't you just say that it's a best guess rather than implying fact?

Er, row your neck back in, old chap. Can we not have a sensible discussion without you making presumptions about what I know and what I have researched?

You may like to read this, which supports what I have said.

https://www.dignited.com/104225/cloud-dvr/

[EXTRACT]



Basically, programmes ‘recorded’ (bookmarked) are drawn from a bank of on demand programmes from different sources (eg the provider’s own on demand system, the internet, the AVOD or SVOD provider, etc). When you watching a recording, you are basically drawing on one of these on demand systems.

Of course, if you want to search for a link that you can use to disprove this for me, feel free to knock yourself out.

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Originally Posted by 1701-e

RECORD up to 2000 hours.... Recordings are stored for a year.

I perceive that I would have RECORDINGS .... The difference is where they are.

You know how long you have to watch etc whereas shows often disappear from streaming sites or change location etc m

No, they are not recordings. The number of hours is a limitation imposed either by the provider or by an industry standard.

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin

You really have to laugh at Richard who, from a position of no knowledge, makes poor guesses of functionality simply so he can have a go at an organisation that he hates for some unreasonable reason.

Richard is right when he says that ‘recordings to the cloud’ are not ‘recordings’ in the true sense. You are simply bookmarking programmes that are on demand for your watchlist.

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

The rest of the Liberty Global companies have had the cloud facility getting for 5 years now. The number of broadcasters blocking it has reduced to the extent that some functionality is now available in Sky Stream. But with broadcast services diminishing the market for will also shrink. The “hybrid” model Sky have introduced is likely what will happen on VM eventually.

https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/sky-st...ing-explained/

We already have it on the 360 and V6 boxes, but we also have real recordings to the hard drive as well.

[nodrogd]

We have on demand with V6 & V360.

However, Horizon (V360) is a cloud recording platform, & the backend systems operate in that way even on Virgin, where the hard disks are causing no end of issues, notably the current CPE IP unknown failures where the cloud server can’t find your hard disk on the network.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What does ' regrading' mean ? Is it VM admitting it's not an 'upgrade' anymore? Tbh if they gave me one of these it would be bye bye.

Same here as we have been Virgin customers in all its forms for over 25 years

[1701-e]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Er, row your neck back in, old chap. Can we not have a sensible discussion ....

Richard play the ball not the man...... A nice opinion piece you sourced.

Let's see what the future actually holds without spouting opinion as fact.