Corbyn's kerfuffle

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

It is the supreme irony and symptomatic of the disorganisation of the Labour party machine that the one he chose had empty seats.

Exactly! Its not difficult to find an overcrowded train as martyh points out.

And to think a majority of Labour members think this man is capable of running the country...

Cynical, hypocritical, nasty piece of work.

That man o'the people mask is slipping.

[Julian]

The scariest thing is that he and his cronies are that thick they didn't know the train had cctv.....

Originally Posted by Julian

The scariest thing is that he and his cronies are that thick they didn't know the train had cctv.....

Given that Labour policy is responsible for the uptake of much of the cctv in use today it's very scary

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by Julian

The scariest thing is that he and his cronies are that thick they didn't know the train had cctv.....

I think his crew thought that Virgin Trains wouldn't bother defending themselves.

[Julian]

Does THIS mean we can expect a strike soon over the use of the cctv footage.......

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by Julian

Does THIS mean we can expect a strike soon over the use of the cctv footage.......

I wouldn't put it past the RMT. Of course they'll call it "work/life balance" or "for matters of safety" so its not obviously political...

Generally you like your leader to have the appearence of good judgement and rational behaviour so jow can any labour party member with a straight face endorse corbyn a man so stupid he picks sitting on the floor to demonstrate a crowded train. That's not even touching the fact neither he or any of his team noticed the cctv camera or the signs that there was cctv that typically fixed to the wall the guy is an utter joke. Got to be honest though if theresa may actually backs her words with action she'll be more labour then most of the parliamentary labour party of the last two decades and with corbyn leading labour she's gauranteed another term in office at the next election.

Thinking about it all of us with a brain have a good reason to want corbyn for leader so march forward brother's and sister's and lets get jeremy re-elected.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chris

Cynical, hypocritical, nasty piece of work.

That man o'the people mask is slipping.

He's of the same ilk as Red Ken and various others who, most of the time, manage to hide the nastiness within but every so often...

I hear so many people saying they've voted for him because he's different but most of them seem never to have heard of him until the last year or so. Ironically, they think he's a breath of fresh air but all he has to offer is stale, out of date political dogma. He's no different now to what he was way back when and he's just proved he's certainly not above the sort of self serving stunt he's been highly critical of in the past. He really is yet another supreme hypocrite.

[rhyds]

The thing is, if the left really do want to get in to power then they need a dynamic, charismatic leader who can sell the idea of socialism not to the scruffy SWP/Momentum "true believers" in notting hill, but to Mr and Mrs swing voter in Nuneaton or Northampton.

Corbyn simply doesn't have the ability to do that.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Yes, but CCTV also have a clock on them. An idiot for the Corbyn camp stated that that the CCTV is from another Train, on a separate Journey.

But, the slip up is that he is shown on the Tape, going to sit down in anear empty carriage,

Good old Virgin Trains. Proving that Corbyn is a prat

[TheDaddy]

Does it matter that the train was full in the end, what's the most important point of this story, commuters having to sit on the floor after paying a fortune for a season ticket or having a pop at corbyn, since when has a politician playing fast and loose with the truth made the news, it's not like we've just made the most important decision of a generation based on nothing but lies

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-lack-of-seats

---------- Post added at 07:40 ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 ----------

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Good old Virgin Trains. Proving that Corbyn is a prat

If I was feeling uncharitable I'd say it takes one to know one but seeing as I'm am feeling charitable I won't say that.

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Does it matter that the train was full in the end, what's the most important point of this story, commuters having to sit on the floor after paying a fortune for a season ticket or having a pop at corbyn, since when has a politician playing fast and loose with the truth made the news, it's not like we've just made the most important decision of a generation based on nothing but lies

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-lack-of-seats[COLOR="Silver"]

The problem is Corbyn (and his supporters) have painted the man as a scrupulously honest, principled man, who's above the petty double-dealing of your average politician.

It basically boils down to the following options:

1: Jeremy Corbyn's team is so incompetent it couldn't even book its leader a train ticket with a seat reservation, and even so, he managed to get a seat in the end. They then film this to make out the train was full up.

2: Jeremy Corbyn's team purposefully booked a ticket without a seat reservation, meaning it was all a set up to start with.

Politicians are frequently misleading, however even in their game telling deliberate, outright lies to the public is frowned upon.

Walking past empty seats, sitting on the floor and then telling YouTube that there are no empty seats isn't misleading - it is a bare-faced lie, apparently because the facts were getting in the way of the story they wanted to tell.

In another age - not so far in the past - this would have been a resigning issue. Unfortunately, what passes for the Labour leadership is now operating according to some bizarre pseudo-revolutionary principle where just about anything is permissible as long as it furthers The Cause.

[heero_yuy]

LABOUR Leadership challenger Owen Smith has been forced to apologise after seeming to call his rival Jeremy Corbyn a “lunatic”.

The former Shadow cabinet member is accused of “degrading” the contest and “injects an ugly tone” into it with the remarks at a rally in London last night.

Mr Smith has apologised for his comments after being accused of “degrading” the contest

Mr Smith has since denied he was referring to the veteran leftie with his comment, and said he is sorry “if anybody was offended”.

The ex-Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary said at the event in Hammersmith: “What you won’t get from me, is some, you know, lunatic at the top of the Labour Party.”

His outburst was caught on camera by reporter Tom Peck, who posted a recording on social media.”

Linky

Those pesky cameras and microphones get everywhere.

The real nasty party at work.