Westminster Sexual Allegations

Originally Posted by Osem

Oh yes, that's right. It suited him. That'll be those famous 'principles' in action again eh?...

Same reason that May can't really suspend the whip from Stephen Crabb or the others. They would lose their majority. Westminster is coming across as just one big boys club. All as bad as each other it seems.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

Same reason that May can't really suspend the whip from Stephen Crabb or the others. They would lose their majority. Westminster is coming across as just one big boys club. All as bad as each other it seems.

That just about sums it up.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Same reason that May can't really suspend the whip from Stephen Crabb or the others. They would lose their majority. Westminster is coming across as just one big boys club. All as bad as each other it seems.

Exactly, hence my long standing belief that, despite their protestations to the contrary, Labour are really no better the Tories they despise whether it comes to sexual abuse in parliament, the misuse of expenses, cash for questions, cronyism and just about anything else you can mention. I'm glad we've established that after all this time because that's what sticks in my throat.

[papa smurf]

Labour launches formal investigation after Clive Lewis accused of groping woman at party's 2017 conference

A formal investigation has been launched by Labour after a woman accused Clive Lewis of groping her at the party’s annual conference in Brighton.

The 39-year-old woman has alleged that Mr Lewis, a former frontbencher and ally of Jeremy Corbyn, had given her backside a “big squeeze” when he had hugged her in a packed room.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...cused-groping/

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

That just about sums it up.

Spot on! The forum unites.
Hang on, that would never do!
We'd better talk about Brexit or Trump before we all agree too much!

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Labour launches formal investigation after Clive Lewis accused of groping woman at party's 2017 conference

A formal investigation has been launched by Labour after a woman accused Clive Lewis of groping her at the party’s annual conference in Brighton.

The 39-year-old woman has alleged that Mr Lewis, a former frontbencher and ally of Jeremy Corbyn, had given her backside a “big squeeze” when he had hugged her in a packed room.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...cused-groping/

Such a nice chap too. The guy who calls people who support managed migration racists.



Back to the accusations in general anyway. Few who're innocent are likely to say they're guilty but how many of the guilty are going to admit that they've done wrong? In many cases it's likely to boil down to one person's word against another so many of these 'assaults' are going to be hard to prove or aren't they?...

I'm sure we all have sympathy for any victims but adding the wrongly 'convicted' to the list of victims doesn't really help.

[papa smurf]

i wonder how much tactical accusing will be going on to alter the shape of the front benches this is too good an opportunity for politicians to miss

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i wonder how much tactical accusing will be going on to alter the shape of the front benches this is too good an opportunity for politicians to miss

They wouldn't stoop to that would they? OH that's right, yes they would. Just look at their track record of dishonesty or being 'economical with the truth' when it suits.

The genie is out of the bottle and we could very well see chaos ensue. Someone needs to get a grip of this and display some real leadership.

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and here's another suspension:

https://order-order.com/2017/11/03/t...rlie-elphicke/

It's from a supposedly Tory mouthpiece so it ought to be treated with huge scepticism...

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Osem

here's another suspension:

https://order-order.com/2017/11/03/t...rlie-elphicke/

It's from a supposedly Tory mouthpiece so it ought to be treated with huge scepticism...

BBC seem to confirm it without detail though.

First suspension from the Tories on this. Referred to the police as well. Must be bad.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by pip08456

BBC seem to confirm it without detail though.

My comment about the source was intended to be taken with a hint or sarchasm since some people seem to think GF only deals in anti-Labour stuff.

It'll be interesting to see how serious this all turns out to be but right now I get the feeling that some people are going to be hung out to dry because it's too awkward for our glorious leaders to do otherwise.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Spot on! The forum unites.
Hang on, that would never do!
We'd better talk about Brexit or Trump before we all agree too much!

Sadly Andrew this is going to get worse then the sleaze scandal's IMO.

[papa smurf]

Andrea Leadsom ‘KNIFED Sir Michael Fallon to keep her job', former minister claims

ANDREA Leadsom “knifed” Sir Michael Fallon with sex pest claims following his suggestion she was a “dud” who would need to “fall away” so a Brexit deal could be done, it has been claimed.

tactical accusing in action

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/875...er-scandal-may

A former minister said Andrea Leadsom launched a “preemptive strike” against Sir Michael Fallon in a plea to keep her job.

According to the former minister the MP, who ran for the Tory leadership last year, is now “unsackable” after she triggered the resignation of the Defence Secretary.

Sir Michael believed Mrs Leadsom might try to damage any Brexit deal that involved concessions to the EU.

One Government minister said: “It was self-protection on her part and she has basically destroyed Fallon.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Andrea Leadsom ‘KNIFED Sir Michael Fallon to keep her job', former minister claims

ANDREA Leadsom “knifed” Sir Michael Fallon with sex pest claims following his suggestion she was a “dud” who would need to “fall away” so a Brexit deal could be done, it has been claimed.

tactical accusing in action

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/875...er-scandal-may

A former minister said Andrea Leadsom launched a “preemptive strike” against Sir Michael Fallon in a plea to keep her job.

According to the former minister the MP, who ran for the Tory leadership last year, is now “unsackable” after she triggered the resignation of the Defence Secretary.

Sir Michael believed Mrs Leadsom might try to damage any Brexit deal that involved concessions to the EU.

One Government minister said: “It was self-protection on her part and she has basically destroyed Fallon.

But could a woman possibly do such a thing? Be just as self centred and conniving as all those men? Surely not...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

But could a woman possibly do such a thing? Be just as self centred and conniving as all those men? Surely not...

you haven't met my ex have you