[Update] The News Corp scandal
20-02-2012, 10:27
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I don't think any group or individuals emerge untainted by this. As you say, I think they'll all be a bit more careful about being so cosy with each-other, at least for a while.
Whilst not defending Murdoch's practices or those of his papers, we must remember that without his money and drive it's unlikely that BSkyB would be a serious contender in the broadcast field and that we would all be the poorer for that.
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We are the poorer for it..Because of his dominance the only true contender against his influence, public broadcasting in the shape of the BBC has been emasculated due to his influence on successive governments.
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20-02-2012, 10:49
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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We are the poorer for it..Because of his dominance the only true contender against his influence, public broadcasting in the shape of the BBC has been emasculated due to his influence on successive governments.
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20-02-2012, 12:04
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Hardly emasculated with a garanteed income, backed up by the law, every government of recent times extending the charter seemingly on-the-nod and an 81% news takeup.
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The problem is that the BBC is more or less on a fixed budget due to it's income coming from license fees. BSkyB has it's hands free to operate more as a business.
This is why the BBC funding is outdated, and TV licenses need to be scrapped.
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20-02-2012, 12:13
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Historically the NOTW was not a sister Sunday paper for the Sun.If it had been it would have been called The Sunday Sun or the Sun on Sunday.
It was called the name it had carried for 168 years.The News of the World.
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Well It had become a Sunday edition of The Sun from 1969 until 2011, The Sun on Sunday is the sucessor to the NOTW!
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I don't think Murdoch is a fit and proper person to be in charge of any part of his media empire.However I suspect that he'll emerge battered,tainted but uncharged after all the investigations and inquiries have finished.Everyone else will have their reputations shredded though as a sacrifice.
What I am hoping is that politicians have learned the lesson that getting too cosy with any journalist/newspaper/media organisation is not a good idea and that perhaps not sleeping around/having a hand in the public till/committing fraud might actually keep them clear of being manipulated by said media as a consequence.
I'm also hoping that the Met and other police forces will get their houses in order and finally sort out the corruption that has crept into their ranks because of the media and that the rest of us will start to take the idea of data protection rather more seriously than we do now.
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I still bet he will come back and takeover BSkyB!
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20-02-2012, 12:14
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Well It had become a Sunday edition of The Sun from 1969 until 2011, The Sun on Sunday is the sucessor to the NOTW!
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I still bet he will come back and takeover BSkyB!
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It's not often I say this, but I agree with you Alan.
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20-02-2012, 12:18
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I don't think any group or individuals emerge untainted by this. As you say, I think they'll all be a bit more careful about being so cosy with each-other, at least for a while.
Whilst not defending Murdoch's practices or those of his papers, we must remember that without his money and drive it's unlikely that BSkyB would be a serious contender in the broadcast field and that we would all be the poorer for that.
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If BSkyB was not around then we would still have more Free-to-Air Sport and Great US Drama and Films 
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Hardly emasculated with a garanteed income, backed up by the law, every government of recent times extending the charter seemingly on-the-nod and an 81% news takeup.
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But a News International/BSkyB would make more money than the BBC!
But I am not against a News Corp takeover of BSkyB, because they effectively own it!
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The problem is that the BBC is more or less on a fixed budget due to it's income coming from license fees. BSkyB has it's hands free to operate more as a business.
This is why the BBC funding is outdated, and TV licenses need to be scrapped.
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No, I feel that the BBC should take full control of the licence fee from the Government!
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It's not often I say this, but I agree with you Alan.
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Your welcome! 
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20-02-2012, 12:20
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Well It had become a Sunday edition of The Sun from 1969 until 2011, The Sun on Sunday is the sucessor to the NOTW!
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I still bet he will come back and takeover BSkyB!
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Well that remains to be seen.
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20-02-2012, 12:25
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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I still bet he will come back and takeover BSkyB!
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No that's dead in the water..Provided we the public keep petitioning about it..and we keep it in the public domain.
Being fatalistic/complacent is not an option.Otherwise in no time the SOB will own the government again. 
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20-02-2012, 12:41
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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No that's dead in the water..Provided we the public keep petitioning about it..and we keep it in the public domain.
Being fatalistic/complacent is not an option.Otherwise in no time the SOB will own the government again. |
The government is still in bed with News Corp and if people wanted to stop a BSkyB takeover by News Corp then they should have campained against a BSB/Sky merge in the 1990s. A 100% takeover of BSkyB by News Corp will make no diffrence, since News Corp has pretty much controled BSkyB from day 1!
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20-02-2012, 12:45
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
I wont be buying the Sunday ****.
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20-02-2012, 12:50
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
The government is still in bed with News Corp and if people wanted to stop a BSkyB takeover by News Corp then they should have campained against a BSB/Sky merge in the 1990s. A 100% takeover of BSkyB by News Corp will make no diffrence, since News Corp has pretty much controled BSkyB from day 1!
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It will make a difference.It becomes a monopoly and Murdoch will own our democracy thereafter.
Why don't you join in by signing all the petitions against Murdoch's plans concerned with BSkyB.That's the way to let the government know how we feel.Better than wringing hands and saying nothing can be done. 
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20-02-2012, 12:58
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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I wont be buying the Sunday ****.
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Same Here, I will not be Buying The Sun and The Sun on Sunday for a long, long time...
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It will make a difference.It becomes a monopoly and Murdoch will own our democracy thereafter.
Why don't you join in by signing all the petitions against Murdoch's plans concerned with BSkyB.That's the way to let the government know how we feel.Better than wringing hands and saying nothing can be done. |
BSkyB is already part of the Murdoch "family" of companies since 1990, they already have a monopoly and have owned our democracy (along with the USA one) for a long long time!!!
If you want real change, campain to ban the Murdoch family to be kicked out of News Corp!
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20-02-2012, 12:59
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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Same Here, I will not be Buying The Sun and The Sun on Sunday for a long, long time...
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BSkyB is already part of the Murdoch "family" of companies since 1990, they already have a monopoly and have owned our democracy (along with the USA one) for a long long time!!!
If you want real change, campain to ban the Murdoch family to be kicked out of News Corp!
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So did you sign any of the petitions?
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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So did you sign any of the petitions?
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I signed this one:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/end_the_murd...082717&v=12622
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20-02-2012, 13:15
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Re: [Update] The News Corp scandal
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I still bet he will come back and takeover BSkyB!
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Unfortunately I suspect you may well be right 
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