Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Osem]

My late wife's elderly mum reckons she wants to move. She lives in a nice house, has great neighbours in a quiet close, her home is adapted to suit her, she lives 5 mins from a large hospital with A&E, has a free bus/train pass and local shops within 2 mins walk. Apparently she doesn't get to see enough of us (or her best friend who lives nearby) so feels a bit lonely at times and gets fed up when it snows because she can't then get out much. Her proposed 'solution' to this problem is to endure the trauma and cost of a house move 200 miles away from her grandchildren, her friends and all the services she knows, uses and relies on. She'll obviously see us, her grandchildren and friends far less (if at all), have to take a chance on completely new neighbours, new friends and fewer services, plus having to build new relationships with a GP and hospital staff who'll need to be on top her various ailments.

I'm wondering if she's related to Salmond...

I still don't get the part where Yes is on the brink of victory despite no credible poll giving them a score above the 30s percent. Can we just get clear, barely more than one in three people asked the referendum question are prepared to state that yes, they want Scotland to become an independent country. This is the same ball park the separatist movement has been in since forever.

Personally, I'm a fan of the theory that Unionism is akin to Toryism in the late 1980s: it's not cool, but a lot more people will vote for it in the privacy of the ballot booth than would ever admit to it in public. There is hard work to be done, but the separatists are not going to win this. A lot of those Don't Knows will vote, and most of them will vote No.

[Mr Angry]

I suspect the "No" campaign engaging the services of one Mr Gordon Brown will result in gifting some hilarious PR to the "Yes" campaign.

You would have thought so, but don't forget, Scots voted for Gordon Brown's Labour in droves in 2010. Believe it or not, he's still quite popular and respected up here.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Chris

Believe it or not, he's still quite popular and respected up here.

That would go some way to explaining their willingness to engage him then. I can't help thinking though that the yessers will jump on the bullying inferences.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Chris

You would have thought so, but don't forget, Scots voted for Gordon Brown's Labour in droves in 2010. Believe it or not, he's still quite popular and respected up here.

Well that explains a few things...

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

"In what may be a game changer in the Scottish independence referendum this September, the elusive Loch Ness Monster has reportedly been spotted on Apple Maps."

Now if it had been Google Maps I might have believed it...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Now if it had been Google Maps I might have believed it...

Looks like a whale shark

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Looks like a whale shark

Alec salmond or Nessie

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Alec salmond or Nessie

Now let me think

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...ides-1-3382125

Worrying :/

Really,its like I've said consistently on here for months and months,up here in Scotland its much easier tae know what will happen on September 18th despite the nonsense I've seen on here,nobody down south ever dreamed it would happen,but dreams will be our reality.

Meanwhile,the so called CBi have helped the YES vote thanks tae them putting their big fat foot in it.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27094092

Scottish independence: Scottish Enterprise and Visit Scotland leave CBI

Government agencies Scottish Enterprise and Visit Scotland have quit business lobby organisation CBI after it formally backed the campaign against Scottish independence.

A statement from Scottish Enterprise said CBI Scotland had taken a "political decision".

It said it "had no choice but to immediately resign" from the CBI.

Tourism body VisitScotland also said it was "appropriate to withdraw from the organisation" in light of the decision.
A Scottish government spokesman said: "The CBI has registered as a campaign organisation for a No Vote in the referendum.

[Mr Angry]

Here.

"Gordon Brown is to highlight Scotland's age "timebomb" on Tuesday as he makes his first public foray into the struggling Better Together campaign with a speech designed to persuade the country's pensioners that they will be better off staying part of the UK."

Originally Posted by Jimi

Scottish independence: Scottish Enterprise and Visit Scotland leave CBI

Erm, I think you'll find that Scottish Enterprise and Visit Scotland have quit the CBI on direct instructions from the SNP, whose prominent member John Swinney just happens to be the finance minister who sets those organisations' budgets.

Salmond and his crew have politicised the civil service and the supposedly arms-length quangos quite shamelessly during the past 7 years, and are pushing their agenda now harder than ever.

[Stephen]

Really,its like I've said consistently on here for months and months,up here in Scotland its much easier to know what will happen on September 18th despite the nonsense I've seen on here, nobody down south ever dreamed it would happen,but dreams will be our reality.

Hahahaha.... you still 100% believe that YeSNP will win.

I don't see how the CBI are helping the Yes party when the article states they are backing the pro union....

Also ........
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-27101266

Glasgow and Aberdeen universities have become the latest organisations to quit the CBI.
It comes after the business lobby group registered with the Electoral Commission as a backer of the pro-Union campaign in the Scottish independence referendum debate.


Glasgow University said it had to resign its membership in order to "maintain impartiality".
Aberdeen University said it would be inappropriate to continue as a member.


BBC Scotland understands Edinburgh University has also left the CBI (Confederation of British Industry).

Because "It will only help the Yes campaign" is the only response the Nats have when faced with the harsh reality of someone disagreeing with them.

They simply can't conceive of someone not only telling them they're wrong, but actively campaigning against them. So the Nats first of all claim that someone campaigning for a No will actually help Yes, and then they claim that someone campaigning for a No is actually a bully, plus any other alliterative term they can think of.

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By the way, it's worth reading today's Scotland on Sunday article to the bottom - John Curtice's analysis is very important, especially when it comes to the small sample size of this week's poll (meaning its reliability is open to question - they haven't published the margin of error, but it would be +/- 3pc on a sample of 1,000; I wonder what the sample size is, and what the margin of error is).

Also, Curtice points out that the Yes vote in all recent ICM polls is very soft; 18% of Yes voters say they may change their mind, only 10% of No voters say they might, and only 4% of No voters would change to Yes if they thought there would be no further devolution offered if Scotland rejects separatism in September.