Bring Back Fox Hunting

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by zing

At the end of the day there are humane methods of maintaining the fox population and hunting with dogs was never efficient anyway. Barbaric to say the least chaing an animal till it can run no more then a pack of dogs tearing it apart hmmmm sporty

Originally Posted by foreverwar

That's right, bjorkii - all Tories like hunting foxes, just like all Labour voters live in terraces and wear flat caps and keep whippets (when they're not out hare-coursing), and all Liberals knit muesli and wear home-woven clothing and sandals.

It must nice in your world of cliches and stereotypes, which mean you don't actually have to think about anything, just recycle diatribes and invective.

Have you thought of leaving the Labour Party and joining the BNP - that way, the average IQ of both parties would be raised......

i think we need a new "touching forlock" smilie for when us "townies" are conversing with the upper class

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Its the tory way , just look at some of the ways certain tory posters attack none tories even when then the story isn't about the forthcoming election, just a persons beliefs will have them straining at the leash against their views just because their political views are opposite doesn't surprise me one bit though, i know what they stand for and its not nice.

Considering i am a Tory voter i should be a rabid fox hunter but i am not. In fact i was in front of the beck in my younger days for walloping a fox hunter , And i would do it again tomorrow if i had the chance.

Sure you are , i believe everything a tory says.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Sure you are , i believe everything a tory says.

What ever, However that's fine coming from a liebour supporter

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Have you thought about people having opposite political ideas than yours rather than attacking them like a rabid fox hunter , nuts whole hazel nuts they get stuck in my teeth they do.

I would have thought hunting rabid foxes was a good thing, rather than letting them live and spread a pernicious virus.

Re nuts getting stuck in your teeth - may I suggest you crush your nuts with a mallet.

[frogstamper]

Personally I can't see the Tories touching this issue with a bargepole if they win the election, they are well aware the majority of the public are against hunting and that most seem satisfied with the status quo.
I'd guess they'd use the excuse that there isn't enough parliamentary time to revisit hunting at present what with everything else we want to do.
Going back to what the hunters want would certainly be a step backwards in my opinion, irrespective of what any of the pro-hunting lobby say it "is" a barbaric practice, how can chasing down an animal with a pack of baying dogs in anyway be called sport?
There must be something missing in these peoples lives if their idea of pleasure is terrorizing and killing a living creature for fun.

[marky]

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[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Personally I can't see the Tories touching this issue with a bargepole if they win the election, they are well aware the majority of the public are against hunting and that most seem satisfied with the status quo.

The majority couldn't give a toss about hunting, it doesn't impact on their lives in anyway and they have much more pressing concerns to worry about.

I'd guess they'd use the excuse that there isn't enough parliamentary time to revisit hunting at present what with everything else we want to do.

Well let's hope so

[broadbandking]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Fox's are vermin and should be culled, if people want to take sport whilst doing it, it's fine by me.

Theirs a lot of humans that are vermin buy we don't kill them by dogs ripping them a part, since whens killing a sport.

All fox hunting is for people with a lot of money to make themselves feel tough as they have little balls to actually do real tough things, up themselves, same here Sirius if I was face to face with a fox hunter he would get one right in the nose.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by broadbandking

Theirs a lot of humans that are vermin buy we don't kill them by dogs ripping them a part, since whens killing a sport.

Not exactly the same definition of vermin I'd use, I reckon you might get into trouble if you started laying down poison and traps for human 'vermin'
Plus it isn't really a sport is it?

I can't recall Sky sports broadcasting the world championships of fox hunting? Or beagles being transferred between hunts for multi-million pound deals.

It's like fishing, deer stalking, game shooting and all manner of other countryside pursuits that have been going on for years until people who don't know one end of a rifle from another (sadly) decided that mr foxy-woxy was too cute and cuddly to be a vicious killer and only needed a bit of direction in life to stop being naughty.

What happens to the fox at the end of the hunt is not pretty but thats life, a deer who doesn't get killed outright during a stalk isn't pretty, same as gamebirds that get winged or fish left wriggling after their heads get bashed in on the side of a boat.

Originally Posted by broadbandking

All fox hunting is for people with a lot of money to make themselves feel tough as they have little balls to actually do real tough things

I've never been on a hunt but I'm pretty sure the majority aren't swanning about in gold-plated range rovers. Instead they are people who live and work in the country and know how things work.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Not exactly the same definition of vermin I'd use, I reckon you might get into trouble if you started laying down poison and traps for human 'vermin'
Plus it isn't really a sport is it?

I can't recall Sky sports broadcasting the world championships of fox hunting? Or beagles being transferred between hunts for multi-million pound deals.

It's like fishing, deer stalking, game shooting and all manner of other countryside pursuits that have been going on for years until people who don't know one end of a rifle from another (sadly) decided that mr foxy-woxy was too cute and cuddly to be a vicious killer and only needed a bit of direction in life to stop being naughty.

What happens to the fox at the end of the hunt is not pretty but thats life, a deer who doesn't get killed outright during a stalk isn't pretty, same as gamebirds that get winged or fish left wriggling after their heads get bashed in on the side of a boat.



I've never been on a hunt but I'm pretty sure the majority aren't swanning about in gold-plated range rovers. Instead they are people who live and work in the country and know how things work.

That's certainly the case with the hunt that meets just down the road from me.
Most of them are customers of mine and in no way do they have a lot of money.

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Personally I can't see the Tories touching this issue with a bargepole if they win the election, they are well aware the majority of the public are against hunting and that most seem satisfied with the status quo.

You reckon? Welcome to the latest urban sport:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-streets.html

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Interesting that you defend poor little foxy woxy whilst being quite happy to see your fellow man die. I agree with you though it's not sport, it's pest control and I'll sign up to anything the gets rid of as many of them as possible as quickly as possible.

Pest control is usually more efficient than Hunting. Hunting exists purely for the "entertainment" of it's participants. Nothing to do with keeping fox populations down..

When was the last time you saw a rat catcher turning up with a many other people (all on horses) and a load of dogs?

I actually have no problem with pest control. Foxes *are* a problem in some areas, and certainly *aren't* the cute and fluffy slightly wilder cousin of dogs that the anti fox hunting lobby would have us believe. I've seen what foxes can do to other animals. What I do have a problem with is the barbaric spectacle of Hunting.

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Pest control is usually more efficient than Hunting. Hunting exists purely for the "entertainment" of it's participants. Nothing to do with keeping fox populations down..

When was the last time you saw a rat catcher turning up with a many other people (all on horses) and a load of dogs?

I actually have no problem with pest control. Foxes *are* a problem in some areas, and certainly *aren't* the cute and fluffy slightly wilder cousin of dogs that the anti fox hunting lobby would have us believe. I've seen what foxes can do to other animals. What I do have a problem with is the barbaric spectacle of Hunting.

I personally think the only reason this act was passed was because the cutesy,wutsey brigade got together with the anti snob guard and got their way.

I'm against fox hunting only because it's a very inefficient and cruel way of culling animals.In the 21st century we don't need it to control animal numbers when we have so much technology and rather more humane and smarter ways to cull a species that over breeds it's food supply. Far better a few healthy specimens living within the food-chain than too many with mange and other diseases associated with over breeding. I certainly haven't got anything against country folk actually controlling fox numbers.Foxes are NOT an endangered species.