17-04-2008, 11:32
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#3781
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Excellent Phorm shares have dropped 15% today already
Lets keep the pressure on !
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17-04-2008, 11:40
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#3782
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No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by jelv
A simple question from the perspective of someone who is not on one of the three ISPs, but who runs a website:
Will Phorm result in increased traffic on my website when visited by users from the three ISPs who are opted in to Phorm?
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Impact on your web site in traffic terms is likely to be small.
However, given their current statements, you may see a significant increase in requests for robots.txt (because Phorm will need to query this file for every browser who accesses your site, and is unlikely to cache it for future reference, given the number of web sites on the internet). Contrast with Google; Google will query robots.txt then ignore the rest of your site for days.
In operational terms, if your site includes application driven content (like a CMS, shop, or eCommerce app) you are likely to see higher latency on first connection, and lower end to end reliability and performance.
In copyright terms, the effort you expend designing, organising, gathering, optimising, authoring and editing content will be used by Phorm to target advertising... to benefit your lazier competitors.
Pete.
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17-04-2008, 11:41
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#3783
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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17-04-2008, 11:45
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Wooh - Ha! Back from Hols and all refreshed. How are we all? Would have loved to go to that meeting tho, but things always seem to clash - my first hols in two years - and it clashed!
Thanks Alex - just seen all the work that you have done, and glad Click have got hold of you. They (Dan) phoned me - and I was away and suggested they look at this forum to find people they could talk to as I was away.
Just seen the iii website - another 16% off the share price this morning. Seems like people are getting cold feet.
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17-04-2008, 11:48
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#3785
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Permanently Banned
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I have now watched every video,and after I have got something to eat & drin, I willwatch it again, as there are a few points I would like to make, and of course, there is always the contradictions that Kent likes so much, so I shall have my notepad & pencil at the ready andI will be back later with the points I picked out.
Nice work Captain
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17-04-2008, 11:50
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by flashpaul
Excellent Phorm shares have dropped 15% today already
Lets keep the pressure on !
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We need to look out for the big volumes being sold, like the trade yesterday.
I would love to see it go below 1000 by the end of the week.
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17-04-2008, 11:58
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#3787
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Is the video online then? I can't find it anywhere. 8020 has no links.
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17-04-2008, 12:02
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by mark777
We need to look out for the big volumes being sold, like the trade yesterday.
I would love to see it go below 1000 by the end of the week.
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Two big sales at 11.39 and 11.42 wiping another 50K off them
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17-04-2008, 12:05
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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17-04-2008, 12:10
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Dephormation
Is the video online then? I can't find it anywhere. 8020 has no links.
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My analysis and links to the footage are here. The monthly bandwidth is taking a real hammering - they've only been up 12 hours and already it's hitting 50 per cent! A backup account is currently being prepared
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17-04-2008, 12:19
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
you could make a torrent of it and find a server to take it from or use the Vuse/Azureus upload user content is probably the better long term option!
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
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17-04-2008, 12:23
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Ravenheart
Two big sales at 11.39 and 11.42 wiping another 50K off them
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that would be nice
but on the other hand i wouldnt like to see them go bust before a prosecution if its possible
i would like to see this sort of thing declared illegal in court so they or others cant come back in a diferent guise
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17-04-2008, 12:24
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
you might also find a way to make use of this too, but its getting some bad press due to it not feeding back the torrent when finished, and its not clear if its good for the general use.
it seems to be ok for grabing large files for mirroring to other places though so take a look anyway perhaps and report back
http://torrentfreak.com/imageshack-bitorrent-080405/
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17-04-2008, 12:27
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I'm about to email Viviane Reding, the European Comissioner for Information, informing her of the latest developments. I'll also ask if she could put something on the newsroom section of her site regarding the response she gave to Oar Wellian.
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barro...g/index_en.htm
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17-04-2008, 12:29
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#3795
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Regarding the share price, even if it drops to a few pence, it does not put them out of business. They have plenty of money in the bank.
It does, however, limit their ability to raise more money, and the publicity is not too bright either. It's a shame really that they have just raised £32M.
Shareholders might want a new CEO and business model though!
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