120M : Fibre without line rental?

[zoombini]

Hi, can I get a fibre connection but with no line rental charges?

I don't want a phone, nor do we want the TV, we want to cancel our big kahuna once the contract is up and just have the 152mb fibre connection so we can use a tv dongle & stream our media.

What options do we have with VM?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by zoombini

Hi, can I get a fibre connection but with no line rental charges?

I don't want a phone, nor do we want the TV, we want to cancel our big kahuna once the contract is up and just have the 152mb fibre connection so we can use a tv dongle & stream our media.

What options do we have with VM?

http://store.virginmedia.com/broadba...u_click_bbonly

[zoombini]

Cheers - just the ticket (I couldn't find it when I looked).

Mind you, it's 3/4 of the price I pay for the big kahuna!
methinks I'll also look elsewhere.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by zoombini

methinks I'll also look elsewhere.

All other providers will require line rental.

[Stephen]

Its of course cheaper to take more than one service.

Also Ben is correct any other provider will reuire line rental of around £16,99 with ADSL/Fibre.

Why do you need 152Mb for streaming?

50Mb or 100Mb will easily do that also and remember speeds are doubling later this year.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Its of course cheaper to take more than one service.

Also Ben is correct any other provider will reuire line rental of around £16,99 with ADSL/Fibre.

Why do you need 152Mb for streaming?

50Mb or 100Mb will easily do that also and remember speeds are doubling later this year.

Guess it depends on how many connected devices he has at home and what they are being used for.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Chris

Guess it depends on how many connected devices he has at home and what they are being used for.

Even then, 50Mbps is enough for at least 4 full-HD streams or two 4K's.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Even then, 50Mbps is enough for at least 4 full-HD streams or two 4K's.

Good point.

Sigh ... wish I had the first hand experience of that ... we're still stuck with a copper line that is only now giving us (almost) 3Mb, after months of work by Openreach tracking down dodgy joints in our very long line.

[linwelin]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Even then, 50Mbps is enough for at least 4 full-HD streams or two 4K's.

Depends if he wants the upstream.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chris

Good point.

Sigh ... wish I had the first hand experience of that ... we're still stuck with a copper line that is only now giving us (almost) 3Mb, after months of work by Openreach tracking down dodgy joints in our very long line.

Location, location, location.

Not all that long ago I was getting 1.3Mb in a suburb of the UK's 3rd city.

Indeed.

Our exchange is actually due for subsidised installation of Infinity fibre late next year, but given that we are connected direct to the exchange via 8km of copper it's going to be precious little use to us. Only a few premises within the village where the exchange is located are likely to benefit.

I'm hoping they may at least disconnect our line from the exchange and terminate it at a fibre cabinet in the centre of the village instead - that will reduce our line length by at least a km, maybe a little more.</offtopic>

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Chris

Our exchange is actually due for subsidised installation of Infinity fibre late next year, but given that we are connected direct to the exchange via 8km of copper it's going to be precious little use to us. Only a few premises within the village where the exchange is located are likely to benefit.

My manager's living in the middle of nowhere in rural Scotland and was surprised to get FTTC recently too. New cabs being subsidised in a lot of EO places too.

I'm hoping they may at least disconnect our line from the exchange and terminate it at a fibre cabinet in the centre of the village instead - that will reduce our line length by at least a km, maybe a little more.</offtopic>

Possibly. There's a database somewhere that has detailed per-line information including whether or not a BDUK-subsidized EO line rerouting/conversion is planned. Ignition's quoted information from it before so he may have access. I was lucky enough to have my ~2km line direct to the exchange rerouted to a cab 50m away.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chris

I'm hoping they may at least disconnect our line from the exchange and terminate it at a fibre cabinet in the centre of the village instead - that will reduce our line length by at least a km, maybe a little more.</offtopic>

Sadly it wouldn't help you in any way.

Your line wouldn't be terminated at that cabinet it would go on to the exchange unless you ordered FTTC.

If you ordered FTTC your order would be rejected as you are too far from the cabinet to get a signal over that technology.

If Openreach deployed ADSL / ADSL 2 from cabinet it wouldn't help you either. They have to do things with power masks to avoid drowning out broadband from the exchange.

You wouldn't even get a land line now if your property were built today. If you are getting over 2Mb you won't be a priority, that's the lower limit under the universal service commitment. Your only option for faster is probably satellite.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

You wouldn't even get a land line now if your property were built today.

What happened to the universal service obligation?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

What happened to the universal service obligation?

Where installation of a new line costs £3400 or less, BT sets a standard charge. Where installation will cost over £3400, BT requires the customer to pay the excess costs (plus its standard connection charge).