Price controls on 1st class stamps lifted

[Osem]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Cant afford to use it at less than a quid a letter, the cuts must be really kicking in.

Well I wasn't referring to us but yes the 'cuts' and all sorts of price increases are kicking in for many people. Thankfully we're not quite at that stage yet but plenty of people on low incomes are - like my elderly parents for example who survive on the very basic state pension. They don't even have the luxury of being able to use e.mail etc. so don't have a lot of choice. It's the poorest who these increases will affect most of all and that makes a mockery of what's supposed to be a universal service.

I might not have a problem with this rise if it wasn't for the fact that not a single birthday or xmas card sent by us using RM in the last four years has arrived at the other end without holes in the envelope and quite blatent ones as well. Service is shocking far too much goes missing and don't bother complaining about it because pigs will be flying and hell will be having tobogan races before you get anywhere. Sorry used to be a big supporter of RM but not anymore their service is poor and the cost of it is getting stupid given the level of service.

[colin25]

In the last 5 years, I only have used mail if I couldn't contact by email..i even use the phone before mail.

I only need someplace to pick up packages..otherwise, they don't do much for me.

[mertle]

RM not ruling out £1 stamp coming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ass-stamp.html

Problem is expect cartel will happen they know business/people need service whats to say private curriers shove prices up RM do the same they rips off more.

It happened in electricity/gas/water they know its just essensial.

This will cost jobs I fear as companies revue there costs. Especially small businesses.

On plus side we might just see end to junk mailshots.

[telegramsam]

Originally Posted by mertle

RM not ruling out £1 stamp coming

On plus side we might just see end to junk mailshots.

Don`t bank on it. Royal Mail makes a fortune from delivering junk and companies that use it get big discounts.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Years ago, you could count on the Royal Mail for deliveries, and two deliveries a day, and guaranteed FIRST class delivery the following day.

NOW, its totally farcical, IF you post a FIRST class letter, bet you SECOND class would beat it. I posted a first class letter to Scotland, and it took three days to get there.

What the Royal Mail don't tell you is that there is no need for second class post, The company l worked for used to do deep cleans on sorting offices, they had a spare room for second class mail, and they store it there for 24 hours before it is sent out.


WHY, dont they have ONE price, and settle on that.

[Alan Fry]

If you think it is bad now, imagine what would happen if RM they were sold to lets say DHL

The government should have not opened up the post market in the first place, it was fine for the past 300+ years!

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

If you think it is bad now, imagine what would happen if RM they were sold to lets say DHL

The government should have not opened up the post market in the first place, it was fine for the past 300+ years!

They didn't have any choice, they were compelled to by your beloved EU.

http://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/poli...tal-directives

Directive 2002/39/EC

On June 2002, the European Parliament and the Council formally adopted the Postal Directive (2002/39/EC), which amended the 1997 Directive. It required the European Commission to submit a report to the European Parliament and the Council by the end of 2006 assessing 2009 as an appropriate date for full market opening across the EU. The maximum area that could be reserved to a universal service provider was decreased to 100g from 1 January 2003 and to 50g from 1 January 2006, the intention still being to introduce full market opening when the Directive expired on 31 December 2008.

Directive 2008/06/EC

On 20 February 2008, the European Parliament and the Council adopted the Directive 2008/06/EC, which amended the initial Postal Directive 97/67/EC as amended by Directive 2002/39/EC by defining 21 December 2010 as a final step in the process of gradual market opening for the majority of member states. For some states this date has been extended until 2012, with a temporary reciprocity in such cases.

This fact-based discussion methodology will never catch on, you know....

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

This fact-based discussion methodology will never catch on, you know....

Not if it involves Sir Spamalot Fry

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

They didn't have any choice, they were compelled to by your beloved EU.

http://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/poli...tal-directives

Yes, but the EU also forced rail companies to seperate the ownership and maintanance of the track from passenger and cargo operations, Northern Ireland and Ireland have still not done this, even though they are part of the EU

So they do not have to be implemented

[Osem]

How businesses will be affected by Royal Mail's changing prices

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17860637

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17860637

There is no doubt that these price rises in quite a lot of cases will have a very serious impact and myself and my partner who are selling a few things on Ebay and Amazon at the moment have had to raise what we charge for postage as it has gone up from £1.09 to £2.70 to post these items to the buyers.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Yes, but the EU also forced rail companies to seperate the ownership and maintanance of the track from passenger and cargo operations, Northern Ireland and Ireland have still not done this, even though they are part of the EU

So they do not have to be implemented

Fail.

http://register.consilium.europa.eu/...18581.en11.pdf

Until 15 March 2013, Ireland, as a Member State located on an island, with a rail link to only one other Member State, and the United Kingdom, in respect of Northern Ireland, on the same basis:
(a) do not need to entrust to an independent body the functions determining equitable and non-discriminatory access to infrastructure, as provided for in the first subparagraph of Article 7(1), in so far as that Article obliges Member States to establish independent bodies performing the tasks referred to in Article 7(2);
(b) do not need to apply the requirements set out in Article 27, Article 29(2), Articles 38, 39 and 42, Article 46(4), Article 46(6), Article 47, Article 49(3), Articles 50 to 53, Article 55 and Article 56 on condition that decisions on the allocation of infrastructure capacity or the charging of fees are open to appeal, if so requested in writing by a railway undertaking, before an independent body which shall take its decision within two months of the submission of all relevant information and whose decision shall be subject to judicial review.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

£1 is still really good value imo, can you deliver it yourself for less.

No, but then I doubt he would also be carrying potentially thousands of other letters in his vehicle that he can spread the costs amongst..