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Old 10-11-2016, 09:20   #961
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Re: US Election 2016

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Seems to be plenty of demonstrations going on against Trump from (presumably) Clinton supporters who only a few days ago where all saying that Trump should accept the result as democracy at work instead of refusing to accept it
Seen this mob on tv this morning.Social justice warriors also known as rent-a- mob.Same mob that were on the streets protesting at the police shootings,at climate change demos,g8 meetings etc.we have the same morons here.God help the future generations if these clowns were to run the show.
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Re: US Election 2016

This bit of commentary in my red top made me laugh this morning:

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THE American luvvies are in a right old strop, bless them.

The stars of Hollywood and the music industry turned out to support Clinton.

The likes of druggie Robert Downey Jnr, Scarlett Johansson and Mark Ruffalo made emotive videos demanding nobody should vote for the horrible, nasty, Donald Trump. Nobody took any notice, did they, Robert. No notice at all.

Meanwhile, more than 20 luvvies said they would actually leave the country if Trump won. The ghastly Amy Schumer, for example, said she’d move to Spain. While Neve Campbell, Chloe Sevigny and Lena Dunham said they’d head for Canada. Good, off you go, get those bags packed!

And have we seen the last of Katie Hopkins over here? She said that if Trump won she’d move to the USA. Oh, you’d need a heart of stone not to laugh your head off.
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Same over here with all those EU loving luvvies. They just don't get it.

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Re: US Election 2016

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Seen this mob on tv this morning.Social justice warriors also known as rent-a- mob.Same mob that were on the streets protesting at the police shootings,at climate change demos,g8 meetings etc.we have the same morons here.God help the future generations if these clowns were to run the show.
Protests are not a surprise, they would have happened if Hillary won too. But there is no doubt in my mind that some are organised and some of today's rowdy youth are just joining the bandwagon.

But to smash up peoples property and burn stuff is a step too far. Let them have their protests but attacking other people and their property is not the answer it won't change anything.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:41   #964
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Re: US Election 2016

Yeah protests are fine. That is also part of democracy. It would be different if Clinton or senior Democrats refused to accept the result but they're not. Clinton conceded quickly, give a gracious speech, Obama invited him to the White House as per tradition and both give statements about unifying behind the next President.

They can protest and work to defeat him at a local level, at the mid-terms in two years and try and make him a one-term President. Some protesters can say 'not my President' but I imagine the inauguration will go ahead anyway.....

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Yeah protests are fine. That is also part of democracy. It would be different if Clinton or senior Democrats refused to accept the result but they're not. Clinton conceded quickly, give a gracious speech, Obama invited him to the White House as per tradition and both give statements about unifying behind the next President.

I mean some of the protesters are saying 'not my President' but that isn't a thing. He will be. However they can protest and work to defeat him at a local level, at the mid-terms in two years and try and make him a one-term President.
Agreed but some are making calls for his assassination and this is just ridiculous and dangerous, all because of the refusal to accept the democratic result.

---------- Post added at 11:57 ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 ----------

For those who missed Clinton's concession speech,




It was gracious, like Trump Victory speech was earlier that day. (Need to scroll to 6 minutes in for Hillary if you don't want to see Tim Kaine speech)
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Yeah protests are fine. That is also part of democracy. It would be different if Clinton or senior Democrats refused to accept the result but they're not. Clinton conceded quickly, give a gracious speech, Obama invited him to the White House as per tradition and both give statements about unifying behind the next President.

They can protest and work to defeat him at a local level, at the mid-terms in two years and try and make him a one-term President. Some protesters can say 'not my President' but I imagine the inauguration will go ahead anyway.....
I imagine there'll be massive protests on that day.
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Re: US Election 2016

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Yeah protests are fine. That is also part of democracy. It would be different if Clinton or senior Democrats refused to accept the result but they're not. Clinton conceded quickly, give a gracious speech, Obama invited him to the White House as per tradition and both give statements about unifying behind the next President.

They can protest and work to defeat him at a local level, at the mid-terms in two years and try and make him a one-term President. Some protesters can say 'not my President' but I imagine the inauguration will go ahead anyway.....
To be fair, Americans have form on this if they don't agree with who is elected, including some broadcasters...


http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-my-president/


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/column-o...-my-president/


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...wBviOwFXOf8AMg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ashington.html


The election is over, the people have spoken, they now need to make it work for everyone.
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Re: US Election 2016

Wow, it all happens while I'm away...

I think the same thing happened there as in the UK with the mainstream media and pundits not really believing that there's as much frustration and anger outside of their cosseted little world as there evidently is. I don't think they really listen to people but tend to write off those who dare to have a different view on life as a mad, prejudiced, minority who don't matter. As a result of this delusional behaviour there's now a phenomenon known as GBBE - Gordon Brown Bigot Effect - and we've seen it in action with UKIP/Brexit and now we're seeing it in action again in the US. This is what happens when growing swathes of the electorate turn away from those who either disregard their views or cynically promise what they know they have no intention of delivering, backed up by the plethora of vastly rich holier than thou 'celebrities' who've done rather well out of the status quo.

Anyway, lets see how many of those who shouted out how they'd leave the US if Trump was elected will actually do so. I wonder if they'll outnumber their high profile UK 'Remainer' counterparts who're so ashamed and are no doubt heading off to live in the politically stable and moderate EU Utopia in droves as I write...

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People are fed up with their concerns not being addressed and that they are simply dismissed as an -ist of one sort or another. The high number of female and minority voters for Trump demonstrate that it wasn't the Trump voters that were an -ist. All the anti-Trump whingers saying that groups X, Y, and Z wouldn't vote for Trump just went to show that it was groups X, Y, and Z that were -ist. Eg Women would vote for Clinton simply because she's a woman, Mexicans wouldn't vote for Trump because of what he had said, Puerto Ricans wouldn't vote for him because he questioned Puerto Rico getting US money.
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Anyway, lets see how many of those who shouted out how they'd leave the US if Trump was elected will actually do so.
Paul Daniels, Frank Bruno, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Jim Davison all promised to leave the UK if Labour won the '97 election. None of them did it, which outraged those who it convinced to vote Labour!

Anyway let's hope Trump didn't mean 90% of what he spouted. Has the wall started yet (good news for brickies)? Is Hillary in chains? Will all Muslims be banned from entry ?

Only consolation is not living there.
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And there's the disconnect. He has to mean what he says as that is what got him elected no?
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Nothing wrong with peaceful protests but sadly there are always some who are always very keen to hijack these protests and damage people properties which is totally unacceptable.
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And there's the disconnect. He has to mean what he says as that is what got him elected no?
I honestly think it was inspite of his policies/gaffs he got elected. The main attraction being that he isn't Hilary or part of the Washington establishment. One Republican last night looked quite embarrased when questioned about some of the policies. He said the wall was probably a 'metaphorical' wall, not a real one ! Be hilarious if he really does mean it, 2000 miles long with machine gun towers and maybe a luxury hotel built in It'll make the Berlin wall look pathetic.
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Wow, it all happens while I'm away...

I think the same thing happened there as in the UK with the mainstream media and pundits not really believing that there's as much frustration and anger outside of their cosseted little world as there evidently is. I don't think they really listen to people but tend to write off those who dare to have a different view on life as a mad, prejudiced, minority who don't matter. As a result of this delusional behaviour there's now a phenomenon known as GBBE - Gordon Brown Bigot Effect - and we've seen it in action with UKIP/Brexit and now we're seeing it in action again in the US. This is what happens when growing swathes of the electorate turn away from those who either disregard their views or cynically promise what they know they have no intention of delivering, backed up by the plethora of vastly rich holier than thou 'celebrities' who've done rather well out of the status quo.

Anyway, lets see how many of those who shouted out how they'd leave the US if Trump was elected will actually do so. I wonder if they'll outnumber their high profile UK 'Remainer' counterparts who're so ashamed and are no doubt heading off to live in the politically stable and moderate EU Utopia in droves as I write...
Same luvvies who said they would take in "refugees" to their notting hill mansions.how's that pledge going?
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Same luvvies who said they would take in "refugees" to their notting hill mansions.how's that pledge going?
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