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Old 08-11-2016, 13:08   #841
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Is she President yet
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Old 08-11-2016, 14:04   #842
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Re: US Election 2016

Florida is the big early one. Hopefully they call that early

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Looks like high turnout so far. People reporting long lines even at 6am. America really needs to sort out their electoral system, it's needs to be kicked off to a independent body instead of letting the states' manage it. No politics, just open as many polling places as they can for as long as they can.
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Remember that they're 6-9 hours behind us and the polls don't close until 10pm local time.

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Trump is off to a slight early lead in the 2016 presidential election, winning over the voters of three New Hampshire precincts by a 32-25 margin over Hillary Clinton.

Polls in the tiny New Hampshire towns of Dixville, Hart’s Location and Millsfield opened just after midnight Tuesday and closed as soon as everyone had voted.
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Well this is the prediction of Nate Silver, who famously predicted the US election result in all 50 states in 2012 but remember predictions are a bit like opinion polls as they can be as much wrong as they can be right.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...cid=538twitter
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Well this is the prediction of Nate Silver, who famously predicted the US election result in all 50 states in 2012 but remember predictions are a bit like opinion polls as they can be as much wrong as they can be right.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...cid=538twitter
Not a prediction really. He is saying it's a 70% chance.
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America really needs to sort out their electoral system, it's needs to be kicked off to a independent body instead of letting the states' manage it. No politics, just open as many polling places as they can for as long as they can.
This I do agree with you on.

16 years ago, the Democrats still try to cling to the claim that in that Election in 2000: Al Gore vs. George W. Bush, Bush stole it via Florida. Media had declared early victory in Florida for Gore and then it suddenly flipped back to Bush.

The current Vice President Joe Biden says Gore was the Elected President in 2000 and Former President Jimmy Carter says there was no doubt Gore won the election. Hillary Clinton also said Bush was 'selected' President, thus, a veiled claim that Bush wasn't the legitimate President, isn't this her saying in another form that the system was "Rigged"?

So Trump's claim during this election that the system is "Rigged", the electoral system in America certainly is vulnerable to rigging, because of the State by State management of it. Reports of Dead people being registered to vote and voting, people who have already voted in one State, crossing in to another State to vote again, voting machines switching votes cast etc etc and even the US Postal Service, has had claims of more than a few postal ballots disappearing.
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Re: US Election 2016

For the 'greatest democracy in the world', they do seem to have a lot of problems. Voter intimidation of those who don't look like they'll support Trump seems an issue.

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This I do agree with you on.

16 years ago, the Democrats still try to cling to the claim that in that Election in 2000: Al Gore vs. George W. Bush, Bush stole it via Florida. Media had declared early victory in Florida for Gore and then it suddenly flipped back to Bush.
Nobody really knows who 'won' Florida. A big problem with the recount was discerning who people voted for because the ballots themselves where confusing. There was a suspiciously high number of votes for Ralph Nader, the 3rd party candidate, who was positioned just under Al Gore on the ballot. The theory is many people accidentally voted for him, thus Al Gore should have won, but how can you ever know that?

If it had gone the other way Bush could have seen himself cheated as well.

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So Trump's claim during this election that the system is "Rigged", the electoral system in America certainly is vulnerable to rigging, because of the State by State management of it.
That also makes it harder to rig. Too many people would have to be in on it including both parties. Trump is saying it's rigged because it stokes anger in his base.

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Clinton has WON her first state! And it's....

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Guam and it's 0 electoral college votes


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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...rs-want-230935

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More voters this year are looking for a strong leader than in previous presidential elections, according to an early morning exit poll, whose results could shift significantly over the course of Election Day.
That would bode well for Trump
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That would bode well for Trump
A suspiciously high number of voters with the names Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb are being recorded in the early stages. This election is rigged .
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A suspiciously high number of voters with the names Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb are being recorded in the early stages. This election is rigged .
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It's Rigged LOL!

Ballots switching from Trump to Clinton right in front of peoples eyes !

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/...head-to-polls/
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It's Rigged LOL!

Ballots switching from Trump to Clinton right in front of peoples eyes !

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/...head-to-polls/
You're right!

http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/vote-f...-rigged-fraud/
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If I was voting, I would insist on a Paper ballot. This is a shambles.
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Seems they would be better off using our system as imperfect as it is never seen an ink mark jump from one to the other.
 
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Yeah but what if they give you a pencil that keeps breaking, or they rub out of your vote, or even worse eat your vote ? I'm sure this is how Dave won the last election, there were some very sick looking people suspiciously near the ballot box.
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