Post-Brexit Thread

Some of the newspaper coverage is so absurd I'm having real trouble deciding whether they are trying to be manipulative or whether they genuinely don't understand the arguments that were put forward, or the decision the court reached (and why).

Originally Posted by Chris

Some of the newspaper coverage is so absurd I'm having real trouble deciding whether they are trying to be manipulative or whether they genuinely don't understand the arguments that were put forward, or the decision the court reached (and why).

I would assume they are trying to inflame passions and increase readership - why let facts get in the way of a good story...

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I would assume they are trying to inflame passions and increase readership - why let facts get in the way of a good story...

But isn't it more sinister than that? Here we have a British court making a judgement on British law and the right media, who have readerships of many millions, come out with these extreme positions.

Troubling times ..

Our media has long gone past pure information supply to the public and observing and reporting situations these days it's about forming opinions in the reader and where possible manipulating events for whatever agenda. I've been surprised at some of the reasons I've heard for why people voted the way they did in the referendum on both sides of the issue such shallow stupid reasons that begger belief. People these days are either too busy or too lazy to actually research things for themselves they are happy to have a newspaper or tv channel tell them it's so much quicker and easier then doing it yourself.

It's got me thinking how if things keep going the way they are sometime in the next couple of decades we may end up with an electorate barely able to vote in any intelligent way and may as well just have the media owners voting.

Originally Posted by Chris

Some of the newspaper coverage is so absurd I'm having real trouble deciding whether they are trying to be manipulative or whether they genuinely don't understand the arguments that were put forward, or the decision the court reached (and why).

How many real journalists are there left at any major newspaper?

Originally Posted by ianch99

But isn't it more sinister than that? Here we have a British court making a judgement on British law and the right media, who have readerships of many millions, come out with these extreme positions.

Troubling times ..

I wouldn't want to be over dramatic but some of those headlines could have sparked some civil unrest given the ignorance of some of the readers.I could imagine quite a few stoodents getting all worked up after reading them

Originally Posted by Hugh

I would assume they are trying to inflame passions and increase readership - why let facts get in the way of a good story...

Originally Posted by ianch99

But isn't it more sinister than that? Here we have a British court making a judgement on British law and the right media, who have readerships of many millions, come out with these extreme positions.

Troubling times ..

It's not entirely new though. The Mail especially has long had an issue with what they perceive as a liberal, activist, judiciary that rides roughshod over the will of the people. It also fits into their general disdain for elites. The vilification of the judges in this case is right up their street because it's so easily spun as these 'unacceptable judges' dismissing 'the people' even though that isn't what the case was about.

It will be interesting to read if Private Eye has anything about the internal deliberations on that headline and if Darce ordered it himself dismissing any objections.

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Originally Posted by martyh

I wouldn't want to be over dramatic but some of those headlines could have sparked some civil unrest given the ignorance of some of the readers.I could imagine quite a few stoodents getting all worked up after reading them

Most students hate those papers though.

I think the headlines were very irresponsible, borderline dangerous. There seems to be an increasing willingness to undermine democratic institutions for little gain. If you forget for a moment the issue about Parliament vs the Crown the idea the judiciary should be accountable to the people rather than the law is disturbing.

Originally Posted by Damien

I think the headlines were very irresponsible, borderline dangerous. There seems to be an increasing willingness to undermine democratic institutions for little gain. If you forget for a moment the issue about Parliament vs the Crown the idea the judiciary should be accountable to the people rather than the law is disturbing.

couldn't agree more

Saying on Sky News: Jeremy Corbyn now threatening his party will vote against Article 50, if access to single market is not guaranteed. This is exactly why I have issues this going through Parliament.

If he votes against it, he will have effectively ended the Labour Party. Though I doubt he will get ALL his Labour MP's to toe his pathetic party line.

Can't find a link to that. Just this
http://news.sky.com/video/corbyn-set...delay-10645486

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7400266.html

It's in the Independant .The man is a fool and doesn't appear to understand the process.Invoking article 50 has absolutely no bearing on future trade deals ,it is not a tool designed for negotiation ,he's simply trying to blackmail the government

He won't be the last to try and hijack this I'm just waiting for the SNP to jump in with their demands turning the whole thing into an even bigger mess and demonstrating that the national interest is the last thing on some political minds.

Corbyn is being either stupid or disingenuous. His phrasing 'access to the single market' is meaningless. Unless we have sanctions imposed against us we will always have access to the single market, the question is under what terms. Moron.

[denphone]

UK politicians don't you just love them.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

UK politicians don't you just love them.

they are a peculiar breed that's for sure den .