Will Scotland Leave the UK?
07-05-2014, 10:56
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Creative accounting?
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07-05-2014, 11:13
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by nomadking
How would the policy create extra tax revenue? Any increase in female employment would be at the expense of male employment. The only possible increase would be in the job creation scheme of staff at the nurseries, which is funded by the taxpayers.
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Magic. There's a reason JK Rowling stays in Scotland, she can magic up money to pay for better services with lower taxes.
Either that or the SNP are saying the only reason thousands of women are not starting and growing their own businesses is down to child care issues.
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07-05-2014, 11:34
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Magic. There's a reason JK Rowling stays in Scotland, she can magic up money to pay for better services with lower taxes.
Either that or the SNP are saying the only reason thousands of women are not starting and growing their own businesses is down to child care issues.
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If only she were in favour of Independence....
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07-05-2014, 12:49
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Any increase in female employment would be at the expense of male employment.
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Is there some sort of rule that dictates this?
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Either that or the SNP are saying the only reason thousands of women are not starting and growing their own businesses is down to child care issues.
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It is in part.
However it's not unique to Scotland. Take for example single parent mothers. There are many hundreds of thousands of stay at home one parent mothers of various age groups throughout the UK whose circumstances are such that they are happier staying at home, not working and getting free or subsidised housing via Income Support, Housing Benefit and JSA (or variations thereof) rather than going out to work or starting up and growing businesses.
An independent Scotland could legislate for changes to their welfare system where this is no longer either an attractive, and indeed in some cases default, mindset for many single mothers.
A forced return to work by means of a revised welfare bill will generate more revenue taxes.
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07-05-2014, 15:24
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Good idea in principle - were there is a single mother there must be a daddy! Responsibility must go both ways, unless the daddies are all on the social as well.
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11-05-2014, 22:46
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Here's a certain brand of "unionism" that'll be almost certain to introduce a wee bit of NI style sectarianism, just for the craic.
"Campaigners against Scottish independence have moved to distance themselves from a planned pro-Unionist Orange Order march through the streets of Edinburgh just days before the crucial referendum vote."
Some insight from a former UDA commander.
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14-05-2014, 10:03
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Just waiting for Salmond to claim that it'd all have been done a lot better in an independent Scotland.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-27404417
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The sale of Commonwealth Games tickets remains suspended while problems that caused long delays for customers are resolved.
Organisers apologised to people affected as the ticketing website and phone line closed at 18:00 on Tuesday.
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He's not exactly slow to come forward when there's some kudos to be had is he...
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14-05-2014, 17:56
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Clegg apparently having a spot of difficulty in answering calls to publish the results of a tax payer funded poll which some believe shows a rise in "Yes" support.
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14-05-2014, 18:02
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Clegg apparently having a spot of difficulty in answering calls to publish the results of a tax payer funded poll which some believe shows a rise in "Yes" support.
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Probably be published as the same time as the (Scottish) tax-payer funded legal opinion that shows Scotland can join the EU (in the local argot) "nae bawther"...
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14-05-2014, 18:06
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Nick should have just said that he'd reveal the poll results when Alex and Nicola come clean about the costs of the SNP leaders trips to America. Unless I've missed it that is...
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14-05-2014, 18:07
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
I believe all the costs for those trips have been published.
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14-05-2014, 18:17
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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I believe all the costs for those trips have been published.
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Cheers Hugh. I wasn't totally sure. Nick still has a few months to reveal it then? If he does that is.
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14-05-2014, 18:36
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Clegg apparently having a spot of difficulty in answering calls to publish the results of a tax payer funded poll which some believe shows a rise in "Yes" support.
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Such a non-story. There is no evidence that any 'secret' poll exists other than a letter to a newspaper from a employee whose given name doesn't work at MORI. Governments paying for polling is not new and they've probably commissioned many, many polls none of which is evidence they have a secret poll that shows Yes surging. Also they wouldn't ask a headline yes/no poll, it would be more in-depth answers to specific questions.
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14-05-2014, 19:05
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Clegg apparently having a spot of difficulty in answering calls to publish the results of a tax payer funded poll which some believe shows a rise in "Yes" support.
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Learnings:
1. Clegg can't deny something outright in the Commons unless he is damned sure it doesn't exist. Misleading the House is a serious matter; his failure to provide an outright denial should be seen in that context, and not as obfuscation or 'difficulty'. Clegg is not running HMG's 'No' operation, Gideon and the ginger freckled one are. His failure to utterly deny is more likely a sign that he was ambushed.
2. Angus Robertson, on the other hand, knows that you can stand up on the opposition benches and say, with very few caveats, anything you like, and he knows that once it is said, newspapers can quote it at will, even if there is absolutely no evidence for it, thanks to the absolute privilege MPs enjoy when speaking in the chamber, and the corresponding protection from action newspapers have when reporting it.
3. Ipsos-MORI has no employee called Kelly Brown. Whoever she is, when she writes to the papers claiming her 'employer' has done a poll and the government is suppressing it, she's talking out of her hat. Assuming she has one.
The Nat's black ops department has been in overdrive for months now. It stretches from the use of Panelbase (which is known to have had its sample panel corrupted) in the production of badly constructed polls which overstate Yes support in comparison to all other polls to the recent, sudden upswing in the number of women apparently taking to Facebook to praise Alex Salmond, the SNP and the Yes camp, none of which are known for their attractiveness to female voters.
All the polling evidence that has been published and scrutinized over the past six months shows that support for Yes, at its most optimistic, has been unable to get past the 45% barrier, which as it happens is the maximum level of support garnered by the SNP in the 2011 Holyrood elections. Even the polls conducted for the Nats by Panelbase have never shown a Yes majority, or a trajectory likely to indicate one in future.
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14-05-2014, 19:20
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Speaking of polls, latest one in the HeraldScotland.
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The survey, published in the Sunday Mail, found 54% plan to vote No in the independence referendum on September 18.
Just over a third (34%) of those questioned said they will vote Yes, while 12% are undecided.
It follows a separate survey for Channel 4 News published on May 1 which found 51% of people questioned were planning to vote No, compared to 37% who said they would back independence and 12% who were undecided.
The Sunday Mail survey was carried out by Progressive Partnership, which questioned more than 1,300 Scots on Wednesday and Thursday last week.
Of those surveyed, almost nine in 10 (88%) said they would vote.
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