20-05-2017, 13:03
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Re: Boxing/MMA
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Seeing Baby Slice win on Bellator (Spike, tonight) reminded me of the late Kimbo Slice and to wonder if his passing at only 42 was discussed here. Any idea Adzii?
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IIRC it was. Can't use the search on mobile. I didn't mind the guy but there was definitely something up towards the end. His fight with Dada 5000 was horrific. The way both men gassed after a round and led to a TKO via exhaustion. It took balls to get into a ring with no viable professional level training though. Not a legend but definitely gutsy.
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20-05-2017, 15:47
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Can't find it, if it exists
As far as I'm aware he had serious heart complications, not sure if that was fully aware of before he had fights with Dada 5000 or Shamrock. Problem was, he wasn't exactly training hard enough for fights, it's an accepted likelihood that he was doping throughout his MMA career too and was laid back in training which I doubt helped the condition he was in and would later expand into him needing a heart transplant.
It's worth noting Dada 5000 essentially died after the fight and had to be revived.
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20-05-2017, 18:27
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Re: Boxing/MMA
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IIRC it was. Can't use the search on mobile. I didn't mind the guy but there was definitely something up towards the end. His fight with Dada 5000 was horrific. The way both men gassed after a round and led to a TKO via exhaustion. It took balls to get into a ring with no viable professional level training though. Not a legend but definitely gutsy.
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Can't find it, if it exists
As far as I'm aware he had serious heart complications, not sure if that was fully aware of before he had fights with Dada 5000 or Shamrock. Problem was, he wasn't exactly training hard enough for fights, it's an accepted likelihood that he was doping throughout his MMA career too and was laid back in training which I doubt helped the condition he was in and would later expand into him needing a heart transplant.
It's worth noting Dada 5000 essentially died after the fight and had to be revived.
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Thanks Adzii . Kimbo was someone I first saw purely by accident on youtube. He was a fierce looking guy but of course MMA fights with pros are a whole different ball game. There was mention of 'heart failure' and 'a liver mass'. The doping looks likely. Sad that he is gone though; he was instantly recognisable and, all things said and done, he was only 42. Not sure Baby Slice will enjoy that level of charisma.
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21-05-2017, 14:55
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Absolute madness at the Andre Dirrell and Jose Uzcategui fight.
Uzcategui landed after the bell and floored Dirrell, naturally everyone is calling for his head and everyone comes to the same conclusion, easy DQ. He does indeed land after the bell and fairly cleanly, however the context building up to that point is muddled. Firstly, it's apparent that Uzcategui had landed after the bell in previous rounds. Then you have to account for him being in full flow, a three punch combination, the third shot being the main focus for the after the bell shot, then you have to account for the referee himself to call for the 5 second to bell mark, in which the bell then went off 3 seconds later.
https://twitter.com/TheSportsJunky1?...Fr%2FBoxing%2F
All that is present in the above clip.
Then after the DQ decision, someone from Dirrell's corner comes and throws a sucker punch at Uzcategui:
https://twitter.com/I_am_fontaine/st...90927516942337
DQ decision could go either way, maybe a points deduction given the circumstances surrounding the shot after the bell and a 5 minute recovery for Andre Dirrell.
The corner man is currently wanted for assault.
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27-05-2017, 18:15
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Kell Brook vs Errol Spence is tonight.
Americans have their own as the favourite.. as usual but I can't find myself believing that Spence is going to KO Brook. It's not usually the go to logic in boxing but despite knowing Brook was out on his feet against Golovkin, he was still stood up, Golovkin's power is on a whole different level, so with that argument I can't see the KO finish by Spence that the Americans keep hyping up. If anything I have a feeling Brook will catch him flush with an uppercut and that'll be that.
It's another story in which Spence is actually an untested specimen, but he's riding a hype train. The sad part is Brook is hardly much different in that aspect but has 10+ more fights under his belt.
A loss for Brook would literally finish him, a fighter with one big name on his record as a loss then a defeat to an up and comer would absolutely shatter any future hope. A Spence loss would be a similar outcome to Adrien Broner's downfall.. a hype train derailing. It's recoverable though.
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27-05-2017, 23:29
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Re: Boxing/MMA
George Groves finally becomes Super Middleweight Champion
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Kell Brook's career is hanging by a thread.
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Kell Brook is stopped.
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A loss for Brook would literally finish him, a fighter with one big name on his record as a loss then a defeat to an up and comer would absolutely shatter any future hope.
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That eye isn't helping. I can't see a way back to the big league for Brook. It's fair to say Golovkin ended Brook. So there's that and noting that Special K isn't exactly so special.
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28-05-2017, 06:20
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Brook was incredibly stupid to fight Golovkin IMO as he should have kept to the division that he was good in.
Night to see Groves win a world title at last.
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03-06-2017, 17:09
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David Hate and medical team confirm he'll make a complete recovery. Bellew is still on track. Whether they'll collide again remains to be seen. Maybe it makes more sense for Bellew to hunt down Parker or Wilder and Have to hunt down Parker or Wilder too, then assuming they both win they can rematch with the winner facing Joshua.
Absolutely loving heavyweight boxing right now.
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03-06-2017, 18:48
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Re: Boxing/MMA
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David Hate and medical team confirm he'll make a complete recovery. Bellew is still on track. Whether they'll collide again remains to be seen. Maybe it makes more sense for Bellew to hunt down Parker or Wilder and Have to hunt down Parker or Wilder too, then assuming they both win they can rematch with the winner facing Joshua.
Absolutely loving heavyweight boxing right now.
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Seriously?.
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07-06-2017, 18:25
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Haye and Bellew set to announce rematch after other heavyweight boxers took little interest in Bellew. Not entirely sure if they'll both make it back before the years end.
On a second note though, Mcguigans separation from Haye has been speculated to be down to Shane's belief that the Achilles problem isn't going to disappear which was then contradicted by the physio whom claims it's been a complete success. Adam Booth waded into the argument and suggested Haye is unhappy with his style under Shane. No one actually knows much except Haye looked sloppy and had blatantly lied about being injured to avoid cancelling the fight.
Amir Khan is penned in for December TBA.
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11-06-2017, 06:08
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Mark Hunt stops Derek Lewis in the battle of the KO.
Er, embarrassing ending to a drab fight. TKO via exhaustion after Lewis just backs off and takes a nap on the cage. Pretty embarrassing advert for UFC as echoes of Kimbo vs Dada rung out. World ranked #6 Heavyweight that can't make the 5th round?
They're calling it a TKO unanswered punches but you'd have to see it to note that the guy just can't be arsed any longer.
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11-06-2017, 08:22
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Re: Boxing/MMA
Just watched it on YT, seen much better fights in the school playground.
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11-06-2017, 17:59
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One trick pony was Derek Lewis. He couldn't land the big shots on Hunt and he gassed in the 3rd and failed to recover, was pretty naff watching him lean on the cage for a round before taking a knee and calling it a night. Again though, a pretty embarrassing advert for UFC considering he was the #6 Heavyweight in the world going into that fight.
Hunt didn't help either by being overly cautious of Lewis' power, that tends to happen when you put two knockout machines together, they circle each other barely throwing or completely missing because they're both so hesitant and quick to move backwards.
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17-06-2017, 20:55
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Boom and just like that Holly Holm is back, that was a vicious snap headkick that well.. I can't describe it, it's a flash knockout, she's just standing and rendering it before collapsing and eating a vicious follow up punch.
Bethe Correia was taunting less than ten seconds before being put to sleep too. It's the same style of kick she ended Rousey's career with.
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19-06-2017, 17:42
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Brook has undergone eye surgery. Expecting a retirement to be fair. His career as a P4P contender is over, it's a career filled with should've or could've but he opted to fight mandatory challengers and absolute bums for the majority of his career whilst parading as a legitimate champion. He ventured to the US on one occasion to take a title but couldn't find the will to do it again and reach a new level, he opted to stay at the one level throughout his career and then fell victim to Ricky Hatton's downfall.. the fact he'd sat at the same level, making no adjustments or going up notches, improving etc that when he finally took a big fight he was exposed horribly in the way that Mayweather undid Hatton before Pacman finished him off... same story with Brook and Golovkin and then Thurman finished him off.
If he persists and demands he fight Khan then so be it, beforehand I had Brook with a chance of knocking Khan out and competing over 12 rounds. If Brook can't put Khan away he'll get battered by Amir over 12 rounds. If Thurman is breaking Brook with a few well placed shots then Amir and his speed and accuracy are going to cause an absolute nightmare for Brook that'll only end in an inevitable TKO via injury.
That's always been the case with Khan though, if you can't stop him dead, he'll batter you for 12 rounds with ease. One of the most exciting offensive 147's in the world but lacks the defensive skillset to be the best.
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