Football Season 2011/12 - Page 97

denphone · 18-10-2011, 13:18

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Originally Posted by thenry

Brilliant news Tommy signing a new contract. As for Wenger, well hes to blame for them wanting to leave neglecting what was required. how can you blame players being fed up of having to play with mediocre players falling short season after season.

Yes at least one player has shown loyalty now lets see if your best player RVP signs a new deal.

thenry · 18-10-2011, 14:48

Peter Hill-Wood speaks, hes got a point... http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/...al-cash-blast/

erm that pic

and why put 'ABOVE: Arsenal's Robin van Persie and Peter Hill-Wood'

denphone · 18-10-2011, 14:54

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Originally Posted by thenry

Peter Hill-Wood speaks, hes got a point... http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/...al-cash-blast/

erm that pic

and why put 'ABOVE: Arsenal's Robin van Persie and Peter Hill-Wood'

l think we all agree thats players get paid to much for just kicking a football but if Arsenal don't stump up what their players want then l feel Arsenal will gradually go into gradual decline and will have a uphill to win trophies and even qualify for Europe.

thenry · 18-10-2011, 15:11

The talk of Nasri not being offered a good package was crap, i thought wrong. he was infact offered a very good contract but rejected it for a couple of extra millies at City. the gap isn't as big as quoted IMO, had Arsene gone and brought players, fixing the issues properly we could have seen things unfold differently. our stature is massive, the foundation was solid, the attraction was incredibly high but the neglect has destroyed it.

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interesting comments by Wrighty - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...r-own-way.html

**Damien** · 18-10-2011, 15:35

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Originally Posted by thenry

The talk of Nasri not being offered a good package was crap, i thought wrong. he was infact offered a very good contract but rejected it for a couple of extra millies at City. the gap isn't as big as quoted IMO, had Arsene gone and brought players, fixing the issues properly we could have seen things unfold differently. our stature is massive, the foundation was solid, the attraction was incredibly high but the neglect has destroyed it.

He hasn't destroyed the foundation at all. We have had a bad start the season, and are likely to have a bad season, this talk of destruction and neglect is really over the top.

Nasri left because regardless of what Arsenal could offer, Man City could offer more. The sums Nasri was offered as at max Â£100,000 a week compared to Â£190,000 at City. They also stand a better chance of winning the league because they are prepared to offer these sums to the world's best players. Arsenal cannot compete anywhere near their level.

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Originally Posted by thenry

interesting comments by Wrighty - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...r-own-way.html

Just a populist rebuttal of a plan that will never happen and hasn't been officially proposed. He misses the point about the owners being stupid because they are looking out for their commercial interests, not the 'dreams of lower league fans', and those interests would be served well by ending regulation. Their 'property' would instantly increase in value as they will be part of a select group of 20 teams that play in a very popular league.

It's more likely that they will propose the European Elite League and franchise that.

thenry · 18-10-2011, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Damien

He hasn't destroyed the foundation at all. We have had a bad start the season, and are likely to have a bad season, this talk of destruction and neglect is really over the top.

Nasri left because regardless of what Arsenal could offer, Man City could offer more. The sums Nasri was offered as at max Â£100,000 a week compared to Â£190,000 at City. They also stand a better chance of winning the league because they are prepared to offer these sums to the world's best players. Arsenal cannot compete anywhere near their level.

we had a solid foundation, on top of which we had a very good squad which needed a few tweaks with regards to extra personnel but Wenger put way to much faith in mediocre players. decent and surprisingly flops got fed up and decided to jump ship. as you say the incentive of more money and a better chance of winning cups hampered our chances of gaining any sort of upper hand over the other clubs wanting our players. the foundation isn't as solid as it was.

**Damien** · 18-10-2011, 16:05

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Originally Posted by thenry

we had a solid foundation, on top of which we had a very good squad which needed a few tweaks with regards to extra personnel but Wenger put way to much faith in mediocre players. decent and surprisingly flops got fed up and decided to jump ship. as you say the incentive of more money and a better chance of winning cups hampered our chances of gaining any sort of upper hand over the other clubs wanting our players. the foundation isn't as solid as it was.

Putting faith in players is what gave us Wilshere, Szczesny (when everyone was telling him to buy a 'keeper), Song and Sagna. We rarely buy players who are already established.

The foundation is the economic health of the club and the future prospect, all of which are fine. If we miss out on Champions League football we are still better equipped than Liverpool and Spurs to go for it again.

thenry · 18-10-2011, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Damien

Putting faith in players is what gave us Wilshere, Szczesny (when everyone was telling him to buy a 'keeper), Song and Sagna. We rarely buy players who are already established.

The foundation is the economic health of the club and the future prospect, all of which are fine. If we miss out on Champions League football we are still better equipped than Liverpool and Spurs to go for it again.

Jack showed his quality from the go, so did Gibbs. Its that sort of quality that deserves backing. Szczesny I agree, signing a keeper would have seen him relegated to the bench, pointless still Wenger did make a huge bid for Reina. Song, again he showed he was able to step up when people were talking of loaning him out instead we stuck with him and rightly so. Sagnas dropped, he was solid as a rock when he arrived but since the passing of his brother he hasn't been the same. Bendtner flop, calls for his head yet way to much faith, Almunia needing to be dropped years before Szczesny was ready yet too much faith, Denilson, Rosicky, Diaby.. all leading to an implosion which happened in the summer.

what happened to the days when Wenger made signing out the blue who made progress. long gone are those days, forget twitter, they all get snatched out of our hands even when the players themselves want the move. theres way to many wrongs, it needs sorting out wouldnt you agree?

we're better equipped than most of the rest yet its not good enough when theres paths available within our reach to avoid such set backs, its a waste.

the foundation will become solid again when our revenue picks up and of course Wenger spends whats in the kitty.

denphone · 18-10-2011, 21:50

Man City losing at home 1-0 to Villarreal after 30 minutes.

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Man City have equalised with a own goal.

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Champions League scores

CSKA Moscow3-0Trabzonspor
Dinamo Zagreb0-2Ajax
FC Basel0-2Benfica
Lille0-1Inter Milan
Man City2-1Villarreal
Napoli1-1Bayern Munich
Real Madrid4-0Lyon
SC Otelul Galati0-2Man Utd

18-10-2011, 22:58

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Blatter was re-elected Fifa president for a fourth term in June Fifa president Sepp Blatter is preparing to perform an extraordinary U-turn by calling for the release of court documents which could reveal that senior officials at the world governing body took bribes.
Fifa has repeatedly blocked attempts by journalists to have the documents released.
The BBC has learned that Blatter is to push for the publication of the papers at a crucial two-day meeting of the committee in Zurich, which starts on Thursday.

No doubt that he has covered himself and his organisation, corrupt or what !!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15357180.stm

denphone · 19-10-2011, 06:12

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Originally Posted by yesman

No doubt that he has covered himself and his organisation, corrupt or what !!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15357180.stm

Of that there is no doubt.

denphone · 19-10-2011, 10:21

Arsene Wenger has rexaffirmed his commitment to Arsenal by pledging not to leave the Gunners whilst he is still under contract at the club.

Wenger has three years left on his current deal and has said in the past that a role with Paris Saint-Germain could tempt him to one day leave the Emirates.

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Arsene Wenger: I have three years left at Arsenal and I will respect my contract.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...ce=twitterfeed

denphone · 19-10-2011, 12:27

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has admitted to being concerned whether he would return from injury during the "hardest six months of my career".

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Liverpool's Steven Gerrard had doubts he would return from injury

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15366011.stm

denphone · 19-10-2011, 21:36

Chelsea leading 3-0 at home to Genk after 30 minutes through Torres twice and Meireles and Arsenal drawing 0-0 at Marseilles at the moment.

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Arsenal have just won the game in injury time through Ramsey at Marseille.

**Damien** · 19-10-2011, 21:43

Looks good for us in the group now!