Superhub Superhub 2 - Page 6

Sirius · 01-12-2012, 10:55

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I think Qasi's point is beside the point. Infinity/Sky aren't that great at the higher frequencies. When I was on 40/10, I got 38/8; when they doubled the frequency, distance mattered more and I don't get 76/18 - I get 55/10. Likewise at the next BT speed uplift will attenuate signal further. VM speed is not governed by home to cabinet distance.

In repsect of the SH, all VM have to do is position the SH as a get you going router with the option of using it in modem only mode.

Simples.

Been using it that way for months now and it has been fine.

qasdfdsaq · 01-12-2012, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I think Qasi's point is beside the point. Infinity/Sky aren't that great at the higher frequencies. When I was on 40/10, I got 38/8; when they doubled the frequency, distance mattered more and I don't get 76/18 - I get 55/10. Likewise at the next BT speed uplift will attenuate signal further. VM speed is not governed by home to cabinet distance.

My point wasn't about the service speed. More like, using your own modem and router - on most FTTC providers, easy peasy. On Sky, harder but still possible. On VM, impossible. At least on the modem part.

If as VM claim the majority of average users have no issues with the Superhub, and most of us high-end picky types would rather buy our own routers anyway, what's the point of the Superhub 2 existing to begin with?

If it's going to be given to everyone but not benefit most people anyway, is it not just a waste of money that ends up making everyone's service cost more?

thenry · 01-12-2012, 11:50

it wont be given to everyone though will it? id be surprised if it was.

Peter_ · 01-12-2012, 12:41

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Originally Posted by thenry

it wont be given to everyone though will it? id be surprised if it was.

No one will be given a Superhub 2 as a direct replacement for their present kit as the majority work but you will get the serial complainers demanding they get one now or they will leave, now if retentions had the stones they would tell those customers to go look elsewhere.

Sephiroth · 01-12-2012, 13:50

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

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If as VM claim the majority of average users have no issues with the Superhub, and most of us high-end picky types would rather buy our own routers anyway, what's the point of the Superhub 2 existing to begin with?

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I suspect that the new SH is intended to overcome wireless shortcomings - to make the thing correspond with the VM advertising hype and to add dual-band wireless.

Key to this will be to ensure proper disposition of the antennae; also not to disable many router functions.

I don't know what chipset the SH2 will use but I suspect an upgrade in this area would be in order.

Finally, if it's Netgear (which it is), then VM firmware will still be in place. Will this be a case of 'nuff said or deja vu? R37 meeds to be good.

Sirius · 01-12-2012, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I suspect that the new SH is intended to overcome wireless shortcomings - to make the thing correspond with the VM advertising hype and to add dual-band wireless.

Key to this will be to ensure proper disposition of the antennae; also not to disable many router functions.

I don't know what chipset the SH2 will use but I suspect an upgrade in this area would be in order.

Finally, if it's Netgear (which it is), then VM firmware will still be in place. Will this be a case of 'nuff said or deja vu? R37 meeds to be good.

I have no interest in the new hub as my shub does what I require it to do in modem mode connected to a TPlink WR1043ND router with Gargoyle software on it..

Peter_ · 01-12-2012, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Finally, if it's Netgear (which it is), then VM firmware will still be in place. Will this be a case of 'nuff said or deja vu? R37 meeds to be good.

Even when they tested the Huawei model the Virgin Media firmware was and is always going to the same or very similar as part of the corporate identity the company want for their products, same logins and same layout.

Sephiroth · 01-12-2012, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Peter_

Even when they tested the Huawei model the Virgin Media firmware was and is always going to the same or very similar as part of the corporate identity the company want for their products, same logins and same layout.

Same bugs?

raging bull · 01-12-2012, 14:04

Could be a sign of building up stocks prior to the demise of Docis 1/2 and lifting all the users of Ambit modems to 60Mb.

thenry · 01-12-2012, 14:14

VMNG300 or 256's etc.? if you mean the latter then no.

General Maximus · 01-12-2012, 14:17

I think you mean 30mbit dude

thenry · 01-12-2012, 14:19

and it'll be SH1s for them until SH2 come out and are marked down as standard kit

General Maximus · 01-12-2012, 14:23

Yup. Even if the shub2 is the best thing since sliced bread i think we'll be plagued with shub1 for many months to come while they get rid if all the stock

Peter_ · 01-12-2012, 15:54

The Superhub version 1 will never disappear or be replaced like for like as it would be to expensive, you will get a replacement when required but it will be whatever is picked off the shelf.

thenry · 01-12-2012, 15:58

no it wont be whatever is picked off the shelf.