Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

gullible definition: 1. easily deceived or tricked, and too willing to believe everything that other people say: 2. easily deceived or tricked, and too willing to believe ...

Stop bringing Brexit into everything!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

mmm, sounds like the definition of a Daily Fail/Express reader or a Trump disciple.

Stop bringing Trump into every thread, what's he got to do with climate change?

Oh, hang on...

[1andrew1]

Good to see.

Liam Fox forced to clarify climate change comments
Fox later clarified the comments in a tweet, saying: “I have always taken environmental issues extremely seriously. The state of our planet should concern us all. There is a clear scientific consensus on climate change, which I fully respect. Even those who don’t accept it should want to see our finite resources carefully managed.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hange-comments

[papa smurf]

Don't panic it's back to normal

What a difference a fortnight makes! SNOW hits the UK as May Day Bank Holiday is set to be the coldest EVER



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dest-EVER.html



I'm glad that's fixed i couldn't cope with a warm and sunny bank holiday, i left the car at home yesterday and walked to the polling station,nice to see my efforts have paid off.

[OLD BOY]

I note that the alarmists were predicting 28 degrees or more for the May Day bank holiday. That's turning out well, isn't it?

I know that's weather and not climate, but we get the same ridiculous claims about the climate. Anyone remember where the alarmists said we would be temperature-wise by now 10 years ago?

Absolute nonsense, but we continue to believe whatever the 'experts' tell us.

[Mr K]

What matters is the long term change in climate and World temperatures, not the bank holiday weather.

[OLD BOY]

May Day 2018 = 29c
May Day 2019 = 13c

Oops, sorry if that's off climate change message! Just sayin'...��

[Carth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

May Day 2018 = 29c
May Day 2019 = 13c

Oops, sorry if that's off climate change message! Just sayin'...��

aaah, that's probably because climate change is subtlety altering the ocean & wind currents that bring warm/cold weather patterns . .

. . or something like that

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What matters is the long term change in climate and World temperatures, not the bank holiday weather.

1850 to 2018 is not “ long term” by any stretch of the imagination when discussing the earths history.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

May Day 2018 = 29c
May Day 2019 = 13c

Oops, sorry if that's off climate change message! Just sayin'...��

I mean that post kind of sums up why experts tend to be better people to listen too

[Mr K]

Notice the graph goes up and down OB, and the long term trend. It also covers a wider area than your back garden..

[nomadking]

Nov 2018

The sun is headed towards its solar minimum, a time of far less energy output. That could mean cold winters are on their way, according to officials from NASA, the US space agency.

"We see a cooling trend," Martin Mlynczak of NASA's Langley Research Center said in late September. "High above Earth's surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy. If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold."
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During one comparable solar minimum, a prolonged period from 1645 to 1715, Europe saw widespread crop failures, unusually frozen rivers and seas and hundreds of thousands of deaths from cold and starvation.

Oops.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Nov 2018

Oops.

Mmm 'Sputnik News' owned by the Russian Govt., wonder why you hid the links URL comrade

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Mmm 'Sputnik News' owned by the Russian Govt., wonder why you hid the links URL comrade

Plenty of other reports
Link

Sept. 27, 2018: The sun is entering one of the deepest Solar Minima of the Space Age. Sunspots have been absent for most of 2018, and the sun’s ultraviolet output has sharply dropped. New research shows that Earth’s upper atmosphere is responding.
“We see a cooling trend,” says Martin Mlynczak of NASA’s Langley Research Center. “High above Earth’s surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy. If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold.”

Metro

Earlier this year, Nasa released a picture showing the blank face of the sun looking more like a snooker ball than the roiling surface of a super-hot star. The sun is predicted to reach its solar minimum in 2019 or 2020, according to Nasa’s calculations. Perhaps the most famous period of low sunspot activity was the Maunder Minimum of the 17th century. During that time, there was a ‘little ice age’ when the Thames froze over, although researchers believe that global warming will stop this happening again.

Isn't that a good thing?
Nasa

When the model started with the decreased solar energy and returned temperatures that matched the paleoclimate record, Shindell and his colleagues knew that the model was showing how the Maunder Minimum could have caused the extreme drop in temperatures.

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The change to the planetary waves kicked the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO)—the balance between a permanent low-pressure system near Greenland and a permanent high-pressure system to its south—into a negative phase. When the NAO is negative, both pressure systems are relatively weak. Under these conditions, winter storms crossing the Atlantic generally head eastward toward Europe, which experiences a more severe winter.

[Mr K]

Still need to look a bit more long term than this year's sun spots... Global warming might be more severe than we thought if there's temporary cooling due to the Sun, and we're still getting increases.