Brexit discussion

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

Talking of Antifa....

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-ree...event-11234071



The only Fascists there were those masked Scumbags....

They're about as fascist as mogg imo, they're immature little children that should've been told no more by their parents. Just like that rabble in the Churchill cafe the other day who missed the rather delicious irony that without him they might not have been able to have their little protest at all.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

They're about as fascist as mogg imo, they're immature little children that should've been told no more by their parents. Just like that rabble in the Churchill cafe the other day who missed the rather delicious irony that without him they might not have been able to have their little protest at all.

Agreed, their behaviour doesn’t help their cause at all when there are real fascists out there (EDL, Britain First, Football Lads Alliance, etc.) At best, this behaviour dilutes their message. Personally, I find some of of JRMs view horrible but he was elected and there are bigger fish to fry out there.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

They're about as fascist as mogg imo, they're immature little children that should've been told no more by their parents. Just like that rabble in the Churchill cafe the other day who missed the rather delicious irony that without him they might not have been able to have their little protest at all.

That Churchill thing in that cafe was disgusting, I would not have sat there like that and listened to crap coming out of their mouths. This just highlights how brainwashed the young easily are.

[Mr K]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8193106.html

. Brexit: 'The time is now' for Britons to change mind on leaving EU, says Tory MP and former Attorney General Dominic Grieve

The six months we have between now and the autumn are so important,” he said. “It is going to be decision time. And decision time in the sense of what happens in the next six months being a final decision.

He continued: “It the most extraordinary conundrum. We have an instruction from the electorate, by a small but significant majority, to do something that many of us [in Parliament] think is going to be very hard to achieve without serious damage to the wellbeing of every citizen in this country. It is an ethical conundrum and it is a practical conundrum.”

At least there's one Tory prepared to put the good of country before political ambition.
Don't have a problem with those MPs that campaigned for remain or leave and have been consistent. Those that campaigned for Remain and are now saying we should leave, knowing it's going to damage us, are political opportunists.

Well done Mr Grieve, top Tory.

But not really because we are still leaving. Thankfully.

You keep talking as though your stating facts which is clearly false and the opportunities for us out of the EU could eclipse the benefit of remaining within the EU and the UK being able to strike deals that benefit the UK is far better then what we currently have. That's putting aside things like a single european military and single european justice system which i and i would guess a great many more would not be happy with. The usual retort to that is "the UK has a veto" and the fact is senior EU figures have made it very clear that your either into all the plans they have or your out there will not be multi layered membership in relation to the grander plans.

Even if there were given how spineless and duplicitous our domestic politicians are they would sign everything including the veto away in future treaties had we stayed in. It's a big wide world out there and because of brexit we can fully engage with it and take advantage of the opportunities that exist.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8193106.html


At least there's one Tory prepared to put the good of country before political ambition.
Don't have a problem with those MPs that campaigned for remain or leave and have been consistent. Those that campaigned for Remain and are now saying we should leave, knowing it's going to damage us, are political opportunists.

Well done Mr Grieve, top Tory.

Most encouraging.
Meanwhile, a lying Brextremist is at it again. Putting his country down by accusing hard-working civil servants of making up the figures. I guess he thinks all of them would be pro-Remain when he knows the country's split on the issue.
In the past, he would have been hung from Traitor's Gate. These days we're a bit more sensitive so I'd settle for Jacob Rees-Mogg to be bunged in the Tower of London instead.
https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-ree...casts-11235091

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

You keep talking as though your stating facts which is clearly false and the opportunities for us out of the EU could eclipse the benefit of remaining within the EU and the UK being able to strike deals that benefit the UK is far better then what we currently have. That's putting aside things like a single european military and single european justice system which i and i would guess a great many more would not be happy with. The usual retort to that is "the UK has a veto" and the fact is senior EU figures have made it very clear that your either into all the plans they have or your out there will not be multi layered membership in relation to the grander plans.

Even if there were given how spineless and duplicitous our domestic politicians are they would sign everything including the veto away in future treaties had we stayed in. It's a big wide world out there and because of brexit we can fully engage with it and take advantage of the opportunities that exist.

You've read the Brexit Department's analysis. We'll be worse off by leaving the EU even with good trade deals with China, the US, Australia etc.

Those figures are total bollocks, made up by treasury Remainers. I said it too, but I vote we throw you in the tower for being the true person talking the country down and believing lying figures.

How are you so sure the treasury isn't manipulating figures they do have form in that area and perhaps JRM knows something you don't hard as that is for you to accept as your so certain in your view of things. Every study out there including the pro brexit one's are guesswork simple as that because this hasn't happened before nobody knows anything for certain. Unlike some remain supporters normal people tend not to put much faith into experts that make dire predictions that would immediately happen as a result of a vote to leave that don't then happen in fact experts credibility has been taking a knock for quite a while.

Also just a little aside i thought talk of traitors was not acceptable or is that only the case when it relates to the remain side but it's ok if it's the leave side. I'm sure you can provide verifiable facts to back your constant comments Andrew I'll just sit here and wait for them. Oh and before you try to I'm a fan of his i personally can't stand mogg and disagree with many of his views but much as i dislike it he tends not to make baseless statements.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Those figures are total bollocks, made up by treasury Remainers. I said it too, but I vote we throw you in the tower for being the true person talking the country down and believing lying figures.

Why is defending hard-working civil servants talking the country down? It is not. Are you naive enough to believe that the civil service is 100% in favour of Remain? Seriously? That ranks alongside some of the Trump supporters who believe that aliens are in league with the Pope.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Why is defending hard-working civil servants talking the country down? It is not. Are you naive enough to believe that the civil service is 100% in favour of Remain? Seriously? That ranks alongside some of the Trump supporters who believe that aliens are in league with the Pope.

I’d rather be in America right now, a much more thriving economy and bonus pay packets worth thousands of dollars being handed out. But hey ho. Keep on knocking prosperity.

You know what they said there too, if Trump won the Presidency, stock market would collapse and jobs would be lost. Far opposite is happening. Just like you and all the doom mongers will be wrong when we finally leave EU!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I’d rather be in America right now...

As a patriotic Brit, I'd rather be in the UK.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

As a patriotic Brit, I'd rather be in the UK.

You don’t have to live in the country to be patriotic, Andrew.

So nothing to backup your constant assertions then Andrew and i doubt MrK will provide anything either and given your constant willingness to accept everything negative about the UK's prospects in the coming years you'll forgive me lmao at you trying to wrap yourself in the flag.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

I’d rather be in America right now

Trump wouldn't let you in Mick, you're an alien. US first remember ? However there's always a home for you in the EU, well for a bit anyway...