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Old 19-09-2017, 00:07   #106
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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Yes but he's rightly concerned that the furious and wanton buggery wont be going on for a long enough period of time, this short sharp shock buggery won't suffice in this case.
You seem to be speaking from experience . But you're right, he'll be back on a bike in 3 months (albeit with a gel saddle).
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You seem to be speaking from experience .
It's true, there's a lot of people walking with a limp because of me

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But you're right, he'll be back on a bike in 3 months (albeit with a gel saddle).
You think they'd have banned old killer from cycling and crushed his girlie bike, they would have it it were a car he killed with rather than a push bike
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Old 19-09-2017, 13:04   #108
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It's true, there's a lot of people walking with a limp because of me
Isn't there a proverb "Never a giver or taker be" or something like that?
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

If you neither give or take, there isnt much left to do
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Old 19-09-2017, 15:15   #110
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If you neither give or take, there isnt much left to do
Can't disagree with someone who knows all the ins and outs .
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Sentence is NOT long enough.

Cyclist, have this feeling that they can use the roads, and pathways as they like. This will be the second death caused by an accident in the last six weeks.

And before cyclists start slagging me off. I ride a cycle each day - I wear head gear, high vis jackets and cycles. And ride only on the road. And have front and rear brakes.

Some cyclists are a menace
Do you think he should be put in the chain gang, Arthur?
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Do you think he should be put in the chain gang, Arthur?
Maybe he should be made to fit new brakes on postman bikes

At least he will know what brakes are after that
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Dangerous cyclists face a decade in prison if they kill pedestrians under a new criminal offence being drawn up by ministers.

Transport Minister Jesse Norman announced an urgent review into cycle safety after a series of shocking recent incidents.

Top of a list of his proposals is a new offence of death by dangerous cycling.

The new law would fill the current gap between the charges of manslaughter and less grave offences.

Cyclist numbers have spiralled in Britain over the last decade.

At the same time, so has the number of accidents involving bicycles, with two pedestrians were killed and 96 seriously injured after being hit by a bicycle in 2015 alone.
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We definitely need something more up to date than a 150+ year old law intended for controlling badly driven horse drawn carriages.
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We definitely need something more up to date than a 150+ year old law intended for controlling badly driven horse drawn carriages.
Good news. I also agree the law needs bringing up to date
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We definitely need something more up to date than a 150+ year old law intended for controlling badly driven horse drawn carriages.
Yes, although I have to say that it still worked, and a prosecution was successfully brought about under this old law.

He may not have been riding a horse, but the principle was the same!
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We definitely need something more up to date than a 150+ year old law intended for controlling badly driven horse drawn carriages.
Yes, not only is the law inadequate, officialdom is also partly culpable for dereliction of duty to the public by failing to make proper provision for cycling segregation between motorised vehicles/bikes/pedestrians.

Prevention will always work better than arse-backwards 'cure'. We'll all be cyclists soon anyway
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Isn't there a proverb "Never a giver or taker be" or something like that?
No. It's actually a quote from Hamlet.

“Neither a borrower nor a lender be. For loan oft loses both itself and friend.”
Act 1 Scene III Polonius to Laertes.
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No. It's actually a quote from Hamlet.

“Neither a borrower nor a lender be. For loan oft loses both itself and friend.”
Act 1 Scene III Polonius to Laertes.
Thanks Pip, I did know that but adapted the words for the sake of context - that context being the alleged homosexual activity in prisons. Oh well, I tried.
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Thanks Pip, I did know that but adapted the words for the sake of context - that context being the alleged homosexual activity in prisons. Oh well, I tried.
I was merely pointing out that is not a proverb, but just advice. as it is true, it may as well be though.
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Yes, not only is the law inadequate, officialdom is also partly culpable for dereliction of duty to the public by failing to make proper provision for cycling segregation between motorised vehicles/bikes/pedestrians.

Prevention will always work better than arse-backwards 'cure'. We'll all be cyclists soon anyway
Hardly dereliction of duty! This is an old country with creaking infrastructure that was put in place in a different age. Have you considered the cost of realising that dream?

The best hope we can have is that new developments should be required to aspire to this ideal and we will get there over time.
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