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Old 26-08-2017, 10:13   #76
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She can't be blamed for the prat's actions but she can be blamed for stepping out into the road without looking, which appears to be what happened.
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

Another pedestrian killed by a cyclist

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3630906.html
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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Another pedestrian killed by a cyclist

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3630906.html
i saw a news article a couple of weeks ago about changing the laws on this kind of death by cyclist , i think the government are looking into it unfortunately it takes deaths to prompt change
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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i saw a news article a couple of weeks ago about changing the laws on this kind of death by cyclist , i think the government are looking into it unfortunately it takes deaths to prompt change
The PM was questioned about this on PMQ's - changing the law to make cyclists subject to the same legislation as motorists. Her answer was equivocal so I wouldn't hold your breath just but I do think it's the way forward. Cyclists are not only increasingly coming into potentially contact with drivers, they're doing the same with eachother - the Lycra lads and courier types v. the rest.
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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Another pedestrian killed by a cyclist

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3630906.html
Shall we post everytime a 'pedestrian' or cyclist is killed by a motorist? It would be a long thread...

If you choose to attend, or indeed encounter, an event that you know includes 'furious' riding, such as a race (duh), you need to be aware of the risk, in the same way, say, as you take care when crossing the road.

We don't even know yet what the circumstances are here. Perhaps the pedestrian ignored barriers?; perhaps the health and safety experts are to blame?

If a person riding a bike shot someone in the street with an AK47, you'd post 'Another pedestrian killed by a cyclist'
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Shall we post everytime a 'pedestrian' or cyclist is killed by a motorist? It would be a long thread...

If you choose to attend, or indeed encounter, an event that you know includes 'furious' riding, such as a race (duh), you need to be aware of the risk, in the same way, say, as you take care when crossing the road.

We don't even know yet what the circumstances are here. Perhaps the pedestrian ignored barriers?; perhaps the health and safety experts are to blame?

If a person riding a bike shot someone in the street with an AK47, you'd post 'Another pedestrian killed by a cyclist'
How about we don't have races on the roads, it's not worth someone dying over. I'll ignore your attempts at deflection to.
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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Shall we post everytime a 'pedestrian' or cyclist is killed by a motorist? It would be a long thread...

If you choose to attend, or indeed encounter, an event that you know includes 'furious' riding, such as a race (duh), you need to be aware of the risk, in the same way, say, as you take care when crossing the road.

We don't even know yet what the circumstances are here. Perhaps the pedestrian ignored barriers?; perhaps the health and safety experts are to blame?

If a person riding a bike shot someone in the street with an AK47, you'd post 'Another pedestrian killed by a cyclist'
No i would post about a "pedestrian killed in a ride by shooting by a cyclist armed with a illegal AK47"
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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How about we don't have races on the roads, it's not worth someone dying over. I'll ignore your attempts at deflection to.
It would mean stopping all those road marathon races and today's Great North Run because it would be dangerous with all the traffic on the roads; and the Monte Carlo Grand Prix. Bit of a grump aren't you? Stay in by the fire and warm your feet

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No i would post about a "pedestrian killed in a ride by shooting by a cyclist armed with a illegal AK47"
So knife-wielding 'pedestrians' can be called knife-wielding cyclists if they once owned a bike?
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So knife-wielding 'pedestrians' can be called knife-wielding cyclists if they once owned a bike?
Not at all he would only be classified as cyclist if he was on one when he did it. If he is on foot then any normal person would call him a pedestrian with a knife. BTW how did you make that leap to combine pedestrian and cyclist together when the 2 are totally different. i take it nothing other than being pedantic

If you are to argue on the side of the cyclist at least put some valid arguments together instead of trying to be smart as it diminishes your argument
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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Not at all he would only be classified as cyclist if he was on one when he did it. If he is on foot then any normal person would call him a pedestrian with a knife. BTW how did you make that leap to combine pedestrian and cyclist together when the 2 are totally different. i take it nothing other than being pedantic
So if you murder someone you'll be referred to as an "A pedestrian ex-Services Cable Forum contributor who hates Tony Blair and cyclists in equal measure" or is some/none of that description relevant?

Just noticed your edit: I'm not trying to support anything. We don't have the facts yet.
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It would mean stopping all those road marathon races and today's Great North Run because it would be dangerous with all the traffic on the roads; and the Monte Carlo Grand Prix. Bit of a grump aren't you? Stay in by the fire and warm your feet
When someone gets trampled to death watching the great North run would be the time to ban it imo

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If you are to argue on the side of the cyclist at least put some valid arguments together instead of trying to be smart as it diminishes your argument
Far better to try and defect attention and hope the scrutiny being cast over it by government goes away
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So if you murder someone you'll be referred to as an "A pedestrian ex-Services Cable Forum contributor who hates Tony Blair and cyclists in equal measure" or is some/none of that description relevant?

Just noticed your edit: I'm not trying to support anything. We don't have the facts yet.
About which case the cretin on his illegal bike in London or the other case
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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When someone gets trampled to death watching the great North run would be the time to ban it imo

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Far better to try and defect attention and hope the scrutiny being cast over it by government goes away
Don't hold your breath for Government scrutiny, the PM simply said "I'm sure the Transport Minister will look into this" which in govspeak for nothing will happen.

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About which case the cretin on his illegal bike in London or the other case
The other case.
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Re: [Update] Cyclist convicted of "wanton and furious driving"

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A 73-year-old woman has died after being struck by a cyclist on London's Oxford Street.
The pedestrian suffered a head injury in the crash, which happened at about 16:30 BST on Tuesday.
She was taken to a central London hospital but died in the early hours of Wednesday.
A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said the cyclist stopped at the scene of the crash.
A man was arrested at the scene on an unrelated criminal damage charge. Police have refused to confirm if he was the cyclist.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41263926

Another pedestrian fatality.
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"Wanton and furious driving" by cement lorryists

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An elderly woman has been crushed to death by a cement truck in a horror crash in south London.

Shocked witnesses said that the pedestrian, in her 80s, was decapitated when she was mown down by the 12-ton lorry in New Cross Road, Deptford.

She is the third elderly pedestrian to be killed by cement lorries in London accidents in the past nine months alone.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/817...ad-decapitated

Another pedestrian fatality due to cement lorryists.
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