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In a now-deleted tweet, immigration minister Kevin Foster says Ukrainians could qualify for the seasonal worker scheme - where people can come to the UK for up to six months to work in jobs such as fruit picking - or apply for a family visa if they already have a relative in Britain.
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It seems an unpleasant blend of ideology, underfunding and incompetence.
The problem this Government has got is that they want to look to be being tough on immigration to appease the right wing of their party and do what they think their core & new supporters expect of them. It"s an anti EU Government and i'm convinced that the main reason for the Brexit result and Johnsons "Lets Get Brexit done" high majority is because of this single issue, not sovereignty or anything else.
At the same time, by being luke warm aboiut taking in refugees from Ukraine, many people are disgusted with then, including their own supporters, hardened Brexiteers and people who switched to voting Tory at the last General Election. This is the message i'm getting anyway from people I know right across the political spectrum. They see this tranche of immigration as acceptable as opposed to people coming over on boats or as a result of the former Freedom of Movement EU law.
The Government probably feel that they are between a rock & a hard place, but they're not reading the room on this issue.
I've not come across one person who is against us taking in people from Ukraine, just some concern about them putting more pressure on schools, the NHS etc, which is a legitimate concern.
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Re: Ukraine Humanitarian Crisis Discussion
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I've not come across one person who is against us taking in people from Ukraine.
That depends on how its done.
In principle, yes, by all means lets take some in.
However, I'm against a "free for all" just open the gates policy.
We have to be practical and control it, the UK does not have unlimited resources for a sudden flood of extra people.
We already have a shortage of housing in many areas, not to mention they are always telling us how all our services are under pressure (think NHS).
True. They are going to have to put more money into services if they are going to let them in.
Maybe they could allow them to work in areas where there are shortages? English speaking doctors would be very welcome after training to align with English standards. Those who did service industry jobs could replace the EU migrants who left.
This way they would have their self respect and be able to thank the country that gave them sanctuary, they wouldn't be living off NAS payments, so instead of costing the taxpayer, they would be paying tax/NI instead.
Where we will house them isn't so simple. The Government have a lot of large surplus former DWP & tax offices that aren't selling, so at least initially they could stay there to be warm, dry and secure. Maybe they could be turned into bedsits/flats for more long term use??
Whilst I do want us to help them, I can understand homeless people asking the question :why couldn't/wouldn't you do the same for me?
The gov must carefully vet all applications the last thing we need is a squad of Russian spies armed with novichok entering the UK again.
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New refugees minister appointed as Patel squirms and the EU takes in refugees visa-free for three years.
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UK's slow response to refugee crisis put into sharp contrast by Ireland - as Patel 'squirms' under questioning in cabinet
The UK's undoubtedly slow response to taking Ukrainian refugees has been put into further sharp contrast by what Ireland is doing.
The Home Office said over the weekend that "around 50" family member visas had been given - a number that Priti Patel then describes as "inaccurate" on Monday and that has now grown to 770.
Overnight, political correspondent Joe Pike heard from a cabinet source that the home secretary struggled to convince colleagues she was on top of the issue during cabinet yesterday. She was said to have "gone round in circles" and "squirmed and hated" it when colleagues, notably Grant Shapps, drilled down into the details.
But while the UK application system has maintained conditions and, seemingly, be plagued by logistical issues, in Ireland they dropped visa requirements as soon as they invasion started.
Sky News Ireland correspondent Stephen Murphy reports that the country has now taken in a total of 2,123 Ukrainian refugees. The true figure may be higher, as Ireland's Department of Justice only maintains data for Dublin Airport, and doesn't count any Ukrainians arriving at other ports of entry.
Ireland, along with the other EU member states, has brought forward temporary protection measures allowing Ukrainians to enter visa-free, and to stay for up to three years.
In an effort to get a grip of the growing visas crisis, Boris Johnson has created the post of refugees minister and appointed former MP and businessman Richard Harrington to the role.
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It's almost like we don't want any Ukranian refugees here. And what does "people in the area eligible for the scheme" mean? Which area?
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Ukraine war: Home Office confirm new UK visa centre in Lille will not accept walk-in applications from Ukrainian refugees
A visa centre being set up in northern France to assist Ukrainian refugees will not offer appointments or walk-in access, and its exact location will not be made public, the Home Office has confirmed.
Earlier, a Downing Street spokesman told reporters the centre in Lille would "start accepting appointments" from Thursday, but that has been contradicted by a statement released by the Home Office...
"...we have set up a new temporary Visa Application Centre in Lille which will open tomorrow focused on referrals only for people in the area eligible for the scheme."
The gov must carefully vet all applications the last thing we need is a squad of Russian spies armed with novichok entering the UK again.
If they were coming, they would be here already - they wouldn’t have waited for a travel lockdown to travel here…
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Did they get their implementation and publicity plan from Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy?
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“But the plans were on display…”
“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the display department.”
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”
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Tory MP says it would be ‘immoral’ for Britain to take more Ukrainian refugees
Daniel Kawczynski, the MP for Shrewsbury, said people fleeing the conflict should remain in "front line" states and not travel to the UK for their own good.
"British left-wing parties demand Britain takes in more Ukrainian refugees," he said in a message posted on social media.
"This is illiterate and immoral. When war is over Ukrainians will need to return home to rebuild their country.
"British left-wing parties demand Britain takes in more Ukrainian refugees," he said in a message posted on social media.
"This is illiterate and immoral. When war is over Ukrainians will need to return home to rebuild their country.
"We should be supporting Ukrainian refugees in frontline states like Poland and Romania."
Mr Kawczynski last hit the headlines in January after it emerged he had spent £22,000 of public money on taxpayer-funded Polish lessons.
In 2019 the Warsaw-born MP have claimed he was an "almost fluent Polish speaker". He defended the expenditure and said MPs were encouraged to "undertake various types of training".
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