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[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

What an earth are you on about ?

Who own Star - who has ICC world rights?
Who own about 40% of Sky?

good old Rupert.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by denphone

l don't think there is any doubt that with some rights Sky gets preferential treatment Andrew.

Regarding international cricket rights, because a News Corp subsidiary (Star TV) won global rights Sky certainly got preferrential treatment! Media Boy is totally correct but we all thought he was talking about football!

But regarding the Premier League, as that Telegraph article states it's all blind bids and Sky gets no special treatment. The situation was:
Round 1: BT won one package, Sky won one package. This was because their bids were not close to anyone else's. However, the remaining five packages were too close to call and they were invited to re-bid. It is possible that ESPN was invited to rebid too.
Round 2: BT won one package, Sky won four packages.
This is taken from the authoritative source Sporting Intelligence

Sporting Intelligence
How did the Premier League sell the rights for 2013-16?
By auction. Anyone could bid and Sportingintelligence sources have confirmed that at least three major companies did: Sky, BT and ESPN.
There were seven packages of rights available and sealed bids were submitted in a highly regulated process.
After one round of bidding, BT had won one package and Sky had won one. This means there was ‘clear water’ in the bids for those.
In the second round of bidding, Sky upped their offers to move clear in four other packages, while BT secured a second package.

Full article here.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Who own Star - who has ICC world rights?
Who own about 40% of Sky?

good old Rupert.

I'm well aware of those facts but what does that have to do with the Premier League rights ?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I'm well aware of those facts but what does that have to do with the Premier League rights ?

Nothing, we've been talking at cross-purposes.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by denphone

l don't think there is any doubt that with some rights Sky gets preferential treatment Andrew.

Going into the next premier league auction Sky's only real advantage is customer data in my opinion.

Sky knows how many subscribers both wholesale and on its own platform it has these customers are all paying customers , whilst BT also has similar data it can't be as certain how many will continue to subscribe once its channel becomes chargeable.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Going into the next premier league auction Sky's only real advantage is customer data in my opinion.

Sky knows how many subscribers both wholesale and on its own platform it has these customers are all paying customers , whilst BT also has similar data it can't be as certain how many will continue to subscribe once its channel becomes chargeable.

Well I shall continue to subscribe to sky sports for at least 5 years .

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Going into the next premier league auction Sky's only real advantage is customer data in my opinion.

Sky knows how many subscribers both wholesale and on its own platform it has these customers are all paying customers , whilst BT also has similar data it can't be as certain how many will continue to subscribe once its channel becomes chargeable.

Sky also benefits from:
- consumer inertia - ie some customers won't cancel subscriptions or replace with BT Sport for some time even if Sky gets inferior Premier League rights.
- a great array of other sports rights so that winning the most Premier League rights is not necessarily so crucial for it as for BT.
- people used to paying for the service, unlike BT Sport where most get it as part of their broadband deal.

[muppetman11]

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[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

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Petty.....

[telegramsam]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

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I often think these adverts are misleading because of the `hidden` extra costs not being prominently displayed. It isn`t just Virgin who are guilty though I`m sure other companies do the same, The same when you get leaflets through your door or inside magazines or newspapers,the small print is often barely readable. I don`t know if anyone has noticed that quite often the small print is written in colours that blend into the background colour making reading it extremely difficult.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by telegramsam

I often think these adverts are misleading because of the `hidden` extra costs not being prominently displayed. It isn`t just Virgin who are guilty though I`m sure other companies do the same, The same when you get leaflets through your door or inside magazines or newspapers,the small print is often barely readable. I don`t know if anyone has noticed that quite often the small print is written in colours that blend into the background colour making reading it extremely difficult.

These companies all know the score but if they can get their adverts out there enough times before they're pulled then they've achieved their objectives.

[harry_hitch]

Originally Posted by telegramsam

I often think these adverts are misleading because of the `hidden` extra costs not being prominently displayed. It isn`t just Virgin who are guilty though I`m sure other companies do the same, The same when you get leaflets through your door or inside magazines or newspapers,the small print is often barely readable. I don`t know if anyone has noticed that quite often the small print is written in colours that blend into the background colour making reading it extremely difficult.

They do. I learnt long ago not to trust the slimy advertising buggers, there is always a catch. Be wary at supermarkets too, if a product goes on offer, you can be sure some form of accompaniment related to the promoted product will go up in price.

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I agree with you about Uefa.

Regarding the Premier League, everything I read said it was closed bids and both parties were invited to rebid. This Telegraph article confirms it is done by blind bids.

When Sky won its first-ever Premier League rights it was favoured to the extent that it was invited to raise its bid once ITV had put its bid in. However, things have changed a lot since then but very understandably some people believe Sky gets special treatment. As we've seen in an earlier post here, some believe that even if it bid less than BT it would secure rights.

Who said that?

Edit - sorry, realised you misunderstood Media Boy.

[muppetman11]

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[denphone]