Technology in Sport - Page 3

sherer · 08-12-2005, 11:41

well would have to say neither player were injured .. think they should be amde to watch these clips back in front of their children and explain why they are rolling around on the ground like that

no ref can really believe these are normal reactions though.. why can't UEFA, FIFA and the FA go to a pitch and re-enact some of these tackles and see what happens

gazzae · 08-12-2005, 11:49

But what can you do? Do you have an indepentant doctor at each game who says if a player is injuried or not?

sherer · 08-12-2005, 13:28

it's not something i want to see but i would have an over the top reaction for now to drive it out of the game.. we need to get players banned for 10 games for diving then it will start to go away

BBKing · 08-12-2005, 14:31

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Think I'll watch this thread and wait for BB's response

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Bring it in, it'll be handy when Essien, van Nostrilbooy and the spud faced grannyshagging wonderboy turn up and start trying to put dents in the pitch or our players. Given the prevalance of outright cheating amongst European teams, it'll also be useful in our next Champions League games*, which is a good reason for having it at Highbury rather than Old Trafford, since *snigger* there are going *suppressed cackle* to be some Champions League games there this season *outrageous ROFLing*. At least one, anyway.

*Note to Man Utd supporters - the Champions League is a competition for the best teams in Europe that ends in May. Not December, as you might erroneously assume.

sherer · 08-12-2005, 14:34

yes but if this was brought in you'd have Pires, Lungberg, Henry and Cole all suspended for diving

also Wenger wouldn't be able to say he never saw anything as it would all be done by TV replays

gazzae · 08-12-2005, 14:34

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Originally Posted by BBKing

[Right, you asked for it]

Bring it in, it'll be handy when Essien, van Nostrilbooy and the spud faced grannyshagging wonderboy turn up and start trying to put dents in the pitch or our players. Given the prevalance of outright cheating amongst European teams, it'll also be useful in our next Champions League games*, which is a good reason for having it at Highbury rather than Old Trafford, since *snigger* there are going *suppressed cackle* to be some Champions League games there this season *outrageous ROFLing*. At least one, anyway.

*Note to Man Utd supporters - the Champions League is a competition for the best teams in Europe that ends in May. Not December, as you might erroneously assume.

nice to see you back talking about football again. been away for the past few days have we?

Saaf_laandon_mo · 08-12-2005, 14:39

If players stopped cheating there'd be no need for video evidence.... or is that too simple?

gazzae · 08-12-2005, 14:44

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If players stopped cheating there'd be no need for video evidence.... or is that too simple?

Everyone cheats. I doubt it you could stop it. I don't think there is a football player in the world who hasn't cheated.

BBKing · 08-12-2005, 14:45

Christmas party season and trying to buy a house. Besides, I didn't want to spoil your fun.

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Cole all suspended for diving

I doubt it, since he's been injured for a few weeks, but you can't blame the man for trying, Rooney tried it last year and it won him the game, after all. Role models and that.

Mind you, there'd be a bit of a to-do if in a few months time Cole got banned, then that serial diver Owen got nicked for diving and banned for ten games just before the World Cup (or Rooney, for that matter). Anyway, isn't this in the wrong thread, I'm sure there's a existing forum for the lone Voice of Reason versus 900 blinkered Red Devils round here somewhere...

gazzae · 08-12-2005, 14:49

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then that serial diver Owen got nicked for diving and banned for ten games just before the World Cup (or Rooney, for that matter).

Thats very true, I didn't remember any arguments about diving when Owen did it in the World Cup.

sherer · 08-12-2005, 14:59

i didn't argue but didn't like seeing it.. also he dived in the match against Austria

some players are so good at diver.. they can now make sure they get tripped up.. spin round in the air and then have their arms up asking for a free-kick / pen before they have even hit the ground

don't like seeing it for or against my team.. seeing Ronaldo and Ruud go over all the time claiming free kicks that aren't there is a site that sickens me and deserves no place on a football pitch

gazzae · 08-12-2005, 15:07

Thats football these days. it won't be solved by bans. Fact is these days if you try to stay on your feet the ref won't give a foul.

I was trying to find the article but not sure where it is, maybe I read it in a newspaper, but it was an interview with Sam Allardyce and in it he said just as much cheating when on when he played as today.

sherer · 08-12-2005, 15:23

the thing is just because there is contact doesn't mean it is a foul. plus football is meant to be a physical game there SHOULD be some contact anyway

a foul should be when a player is tripped to stop them getting the ball.. if the player is going for the ball but gets it wrong and misses by less than an inch then it shouldn't be a foul

the thing is players no longer chase after the ball and their first instinct isn't to stay on their feet and get the ball but to fall over and "win" a free kick.. that is fundamentally wrong

i think we've gone slightly OT from the technology in sport question that started the thread

gazzae · 08-12-2005, 15:38

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Originally Posted by sherer

the thing is just because there is contact doesn't mean it is a foul. plus football is meant to be a physical game there SHOULD be some contact anyway

If there is contact with a player before contact with the ball then it is a foul.

ian@huth · 08-12-2005, 16:25

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Originally Posted by sherer

the thing is just because there is contact doesn't mean it is a foul. plus football is meant to be a physical game there SHOULD be some contact anyway

If there is contact with a player before contact with the ball then it is a foul.

The thing though is that some players only go into a tackle with the intention to win a foul rather than win the ball. They deliberately put their body in a position where their opponent has to make contact with them before the ball. They then roll and thrash about for ages, something that never used to happen years ago when there was far more physical contact in the game. This isn't sportsman like behaviour. I feel that the ref should only award a foul if he thought there was intent and should penalise any player who deliberately plays to win a foul.

Perhaps the FA should recruit some ice hockey refs and introduce sin bins where a player could be sent for several minutes to cool down.