[Update] The News Corp scandal

I'm just fecked off that as usual another thread descends into political wrangling and stupid finger pointing.We were doing so well.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So - don't hire someone because he has not been charged or found guilty of anything,

Well you see Flyboy's twisted version of 'justice' dictates that latex gloved, rock toting, budding pyromaniacs photographed causing mayhem in London are innocent even after being proved guilty whereas anyone with any connection to the police or the evil Tory party is guilty before and even after being proved innocent.

Originally Posted by Hugh

just base your hiring decisions on hearsay and rumour.......

Almost as bad as basing massively important decisons on lies and spin...

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So - don't hire someone because he has not been charged or found guilty of anything, just base your hiring decisions on hearsay and rumour.......

But if that person's alledged prior behaviour is likely to threaten the well-being of your business, then no, don't appoint them, it's common sense.

Instead of spreading rumour and innuendo ("I am sure if there was any nefarious activity we will be informed as time goes by"), why not wait to see what the police enquiry and the inquiry panel find - or is it easier to ignore "innocent until proven guilty" if the person involved is a Conservative?

You can read anything you like in to any of my remarks, but that won't change the fact that Cameron, Coulson and the Murdochs are hiding something.

This has got to the stage of the Tory camp vs Labour camp again - I specifically requested pages ago that I did not want this thread turning into a political battle ground - I really couldn't care less if it is on 'par' with the topic - I want it to end now.

Edit: Just to add - Political discussion surrounding the events of the scandal is fine - but the political point scoring with each other is not what this thread is about and it must stop.

[Flyboy]

[Admin Edit(Mick) Post Removed-I said stop the political arguments]

[LondonRoad]

Glad you stepped in Mick. I was beginning to think that Rupert was a victim of all the manipulative politicians in Britain.

I'm actually a tad surprised that this scandal hasn't gone more international yet. There was the suggestion of the alleged 9/11 hackers but not a lot else.

I suspect that the Murdochs are doing their very best to keep this within our borders but I suspect once they've jettisoned all that they can from our shores this will go global.

[denphone]

Right this is non political as l have always tried to be but what do people think about James Murdoch because l think he is definitely not telling the truth and l think he will be found out sooner rather then later as this scandal rumbles on.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ittee-evidence

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...p-looking-down

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-2318540.html

Originally Posted by denphone

Right this is non political as l have always tried to be but what do people think about James Murdoch because l think he is definitely not telling the truth and l think he will be found out sooner rather then later as this scandal rumbles on.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ittee-evidence

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...p-looking-down

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-2318540.html

From the first link.

The existence of the email, known as the "for Neville" email because of its link to the paper's former chief reporter Neville Thurlbeck, is thought to have been critical in News International's decision to pay out around £700,000 to Taylor in an out-of-court settlement after he threatened to sue the paper.

John Whittingdale, the chairman of the culture, sport and media select committee, said: "We as a committee regarded the 'for Neville' email as one of the most critical pieces of evidence in the whole inquiry. We will be asking James Murdoch to respond and ask him to clarify."
He added that "it was seen as one of the few available pieces of evidence showing that this activity was not confined just to Clive Goodman", the only journalist on the paper to have been prosecuted – and jailed – in relation to phone hacking so far.

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I've also been listening to the BBC news just now and they are saying that there may be charges to be made in the US over phone hacking in relation to the hacking of Jude Law's phone on a US network..

No link for that snippet though.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/wo..._r=1&ref=world

A key figure in Britain’s widening phone hacking scandal who had worked as an editor at The News of the World surfaced in Florida on Thursday, saying he was preparing to return to Britain and was talking to the British police.

[denphone]

This is like a Pandora's box as the ending of all this is likely to be a couple of years away yet and the question is who's next to open their mouth and reveal everything.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I've also been listening to the BBC news just now and they are saying that there may be charges to be made in the US over phone hacking in relation to the hacking of Jude Law's phone on a US network..

No link for that snippet though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14244139

[denphone]

l have just seen a piece in the independent and it has just sid that the James Murdoch claim is to be referred to the Police.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-2318751.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...king-live.html

[BenMcr]

BBC now as well http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14245922

[denphone]

More questions being asked here of Andy Coulson and David Cameron.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog...-live-coverage

[denphone]

Breaking news on the BBC and that is that NOTW hired a investigator to follow MP Tom Watson.

Originally Posted by denphone

Breaking news on the BBC and that is that NOTW hired a investigator to follow MP Tom Watson.

Not surprised. He was on this issue very early.