15-02-2017, 10:18
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
How totally unsurprising that both the bbc and the grauniad spout the bolleaux that piece of filth comes out with.....
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15-02-2017, 10:29
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
I don't like Abbot. I think she is a hypocrite and a poor politician. But calling her a 'piece of filth' is pretty over the top.
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15-02-2017, 10:44
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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I don't like Abbot. I think she is a hypocrite and a poor politician. But calling her a 'piece of filth' is pretty over the top.
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Yes and it wouldn't be my choice of words but do you seriously think she's never used language which is just as offensive? Bandying around terms like bigot, racist and sexist is highly offensive isn't it? Look at the language which was routinely used against Farage by all sorts of high profile people, especially those on the left.
There's an old saying 'what goes around comes around' and if people in high office don't like abuse they shouldn't employ it. They're supposed to be setting an example but, when it suits, they'll happily indulge in just the sort of behaviour/language they condemn others for.
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15-02-2017, 10:50
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Yes and it wouldn't be my choice of words but do you seriously think she's never used language which is just as offensive? Bandying around terms like bigot, racist and sexist is highly offensive isn't it? Look at the language which was routinely used against Farage by all sorts of high profile people, especially those on the left.
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Yes. I do think she uses similar language hence the hypocrite remark. It's just I don't like it from her or from others either. I said before, left or right, the way we treat and talk about each other is getting worse and more extreme and we should try and scale that back.
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15-02-2017, 10:55
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Yes. I do think she uses similar language hence the hypocrite remark. It's just I don't like it from her or from others either. I said before, left or right, the way we treat and talk about each other is getting worse and more extreme and we should try and scale that back.
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Exactly.
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15-02-2017, 11:19
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Originally Posted by Julian
How totally unsurprising that both the bbc and the grauniad spout the bolleaux that piece of filth comes out with.....
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Also in the Telegraph and the Express...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...regular-basis/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...h-profile-jobs
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15-02-2017, 12:07
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Originally Posted by Damien
Yes. I do think she uses similar language hence the hypocrite remark. It's just I don't like it from her or from others either. I said before, left or right, the way we treat and talk about each other is getting worse and more extreme and we should try and scale that back.
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I think most of us can agree on that.
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24-02-2017, 03:33
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
By-election results: Labour hold Stoke but lose Copeland. Tories Gain Copeland.
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24-02-2017, 07:54
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
Awful night for Labour and UKIP. Corbyn really should go but won't.
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24-02-2017, 08:03
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Awful night for Labour and UKIP. Corbyn really should go but won't.
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The saddest thing at the moment is there is no strong opposition and in my opinion you do need that or else the governing party will basically just do what they want without any strong questioning at all of the policies they want to implement.
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24-02-2017, 08:06
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
Copeland was always going to be a struggle. When your leader is opposed to the major employers in the area (The nuclear industry and BAE submarine building at Barrow) then its going to take more than "our NHS" to shift voters' minds.
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24-02-2017, 08:24
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Copeland was always going to be a struggle. When your leader is opposed to the major employers in the area (The nuclear industry and BAE submarine building at Barrow) then its going to take more than "our NHS" to shift voters' minds.
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But if Labour can't win on the NHS which was a big issue in Copeland by all accounts then they're really in trouble.
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24-02-2017, 08:31
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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But if Labour can't win on the NHS which was a big issue in Copeland by all accounts then they're really in trouble.
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Indeed that is the way l see it.
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24-02-2017, 08:51
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
This was a great result. Corbyn did just well enough to hang on in leadership, but the results indicate just how badly he is likely to do at the next GE.
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24-02-2017, 09:27
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Originally Posted by Chris
This was a great result. Corbyn did just well enough to hang on in leadership, but the results indicate just how badly he is likely to do at the next GE.
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Corbyn has done more than enough even before yesterday to be kicked out. He won't because he has the members who'll ensure he can stay, irrespective of how badly he does.
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