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[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Got any better ideas?

Better ideas than global dictatorship?

I /know/ I don't have all the answers but trying to get the whole world to do as I want is neither practical or sensible. Maybe YOU could come up with a sensible suggestion?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by martyh

How do you propose to establish this "global government" with standardised wages and benefits?.Do you wish to remove countries own sovereignty and if so how? without having all out war on a global scale

I will offer them a vote, if most of the worids population agrees then the whole world will become one nation!

People in Developing Nations would agree to this becuase then they can have higher wages and benefits!

Some Nations will be foced to do it, but they can have their own state!

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I will offer them a vote, if most of the worids population agrees then the whole world will become one nation!

People in Developing Nations would agree to this becuase then they can have higher wages and benefits!

Some Nations will be foced to do it, but they can have their own state!

I'm speechless,how you could think that such an idea is workable let alone the solution is beyond me

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Why should we save money when hundreds of billions worth of tax are being evaded each year from the UK government, the NHS reforms will cost money and we have a failed economic and social systems. It is about time we ended the era of the rich "never having it so good"!!!

We need to create real decent jobs, not work work schemes and welfare reforms!!!

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No, I did not, you (and your friends) should be consigned to the history book becasue you defend a social and economic system that is not working and is outdated!!!

In other words:

THE WORLD IS NOT WORKING!!!

In your opinion that is.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I will offer them a vote, if most of the worids population agrees then the whole world will become one nation!

People in Developing Nations would agree to this becuase then they can have higher wages and benefits!

Some Nations will be foced to do it, but they can have their own state!

But if they have higher wages, this will make prices of goods and services go up, so people will need higher wages to manage that, and repeat ad infinitum.

You may not have thought this all the way through....

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But if they have higher wages, this will make prices of goods and services go up, so people will need higher wages to manage that, and repeat ad infinitum.

You may not have thought this all the way through....

Yes, but they will have a better lifestyle, because they will get better healthcare and education!

The price of goods and services will be compensated by higer wage rises!

[Pog66]

...and presumably the adoption of the leaf as a monetory unit? (with apologies to Douglas Adams).

basic economics = higher wages = increased cost of goods = rising inflation = higher wages = increased cost of goods.....need I go on.

And as for a World Government...!! If culture of Germany & Greece barely 1000 miles a part appears irreconcilable how do you actually believe that there is enough common ground between Sharia Muslim states, communism, military dictatorships, a republican USA & African warlords ?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Pog66

...and presumably the adoption of the leaf as a monetory unit? (with apologies to Douglas Adams).

basic economics = higher wages = increased cost of goods = rising inflation = higher wages = increased cost of goods.....need I go on.

And as for a World Government...!! If culture of Germany & Greece barely 1000 miles a part appears irreconcilable how do you actually believe that there is enough common ground between Sharia Muslim states, communism, military dictatorships, a republican USA & African warlords ?

There will be thousands of federal states, so that they can still run their own affairs, all communist states (bar North Korea) have become capitalist, military dictatorships and war lords can be dealt with by force or money (much to the relief of the local people), the same will apply to Sharia Muslin states (a large number of people do not like their governments, hence the Arab spring)!

In other worlds, all nations will become part of a world government, whenever by choice or force!

In this global government, companies will become will either be state owned or become co-operatives and the co-operatives will depend on loans from the state development bank, so the government will reduce profit margins without raising prices

[Taf]

Excuse me, I appear to have been transported to a different planet....

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Taf

Excuse me, I appear to have been transported to a different planet....

A much better one!

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

There will be thousands of federal states, so that they can still run their own affairs, all communist states (bar North Korea) have become capitalist, military dictatorships and war lords can be dealt with by force or money (much to the relief of the local people), the same will apply to Sharia Muslin states (a large number of people do not like their governments, hence the Arab spring)!

In other worlds, all nations will become part of a world government, whenever by choice or force!

In this global government, companies will become will either be state owned or become co-operatives and the co-operatives will depend on loans from the state development bank, so the government will reduce profit margins without raising prices

seriously dude ,get some help .Not only are the basic concepts of economics meaningless to you but you think that forcing other sovereign nations to join your idiotic world government acceptable .I think you need to step back from the brink and look at the history of other people who thought that world domination would be good idea .....and no, i don't mean watching james bond films

[mark1234]

Wow. Just, wow.

Originally Posted by mark1234

Wow. Just, wow.

is that aimed at me or Alan ?

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by martyh

seriously dude ,get some help .Not only are the basic concepts of economics meaningless to you but you think that forcing other sovereign nations to join your idiotic world government acceptable .I think you need to step back from the brink and look at the history of other people who thought that world domination would be good idea .....and no, i don't mean watching james bond films

My pint is that since business had gone "Globalised", then to regulate them and manage their effects, Governments also need to "Globalise"

My plan does not just involve force, but though democratic means, I can tell you why people who vote "yes" for this plan:

1: The Kurds and other "Unrepresented Peoples" can finally have their own state

2: War between nations will stop (along with a strong focuus on law and order)

3: The wealth of the world can be spread to developing nations

4: People in devloping nations can have higher incomes and free high quality education and heathcare

5: People in devloping nations will no longer be exploited

6: Relgious and LGBT freedom and rights can be spread worldwide

7: Relgion will no longer be closely linked to government, poltics etc

8: A lot of the worlds conflicts will end

9: No Relgion or race will dominate another

10: Tax Evasion and Advodance will end

11: People in Developed Nations will no longer have governments that care about the rich, so they can have higher wages and benifts

And that is just is the start!

In other words, a fresh new start for humans and the earth!

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

My pint is ........snipped rubbish

Well there's your problem