V Stuff is Live - Page 4

Caspar · 07-04-2009, 10:18

What I do like about VStuff is that it'll backup any data location, as a free service

I have a NAS attached to my home server, which I then map to my WinXP machine via a share from server

Most online backup service just won't do network drive backups, unless you buy their full service. I like mozy.com, they offer a free 2GB service, but it won't backup network drives, so it's useless. I'd have to sign up just to test it.

Vstuff - I'm really having issues with, I select the backup folders, but nothing backups up. I then read the instructions properly so turn on the file types

My selected pictures backup fine, but then stop half way through, and I can't find a way to restart it.

Also Vstuff has decided to backup my internet explorer cookies!?!!? They're not even selected, so god knows how it decided to backup 'em up!

ok, getting serious... I think some will like this service and the backup tool, but from my perspective with a lifetime of IT expereince and running corporate IT backup and DR procedures I think it's highly un-intuitive and I simply can't fathom how to use it! on the edge of giving up!

Symantec Backup Exec is bloody easier to use!

Sirius · 07-04-2009, 10:21

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Oo Eeeerrrr how unlike you to defend VM. What they should bother doing is getting their network right so then they will be top dog instead

I simply said I run an experiment to test the service and posted my results which were the upload to the service is to slow to cause you to hit STM. I also said snapfish do very good photographs

Live mesh is M$HQ version which has the same I think online storage but also allows remote access to your PC over the web

Adrive gives a basic service with 50 gig storage free

You can turn your googlemail into an online storage drive (remember I did this for the clan ages ago?)mines at 7.5 gig and rising

The there ishumi.com another one with 10 gig

None of it as good as Vstuff and would still depend on your upload, which for me is fine being on 50 meg.

Plus i would not trust anything from Micro$oft it will plainly be beta quality just like there main OS.

Plus you know me better than to say i always defend VM because that's wrong i don't

07-04-2009, 10:34

no dude I meant it was a surprise that you were because I knwo you dont

missunderstanding there

Adrive gives you 5 times the storage ok you have to manually do it but I would not want a service running without my say so anyway.

Live Mesh is far more versatile I do not understand why you think V Stuff is better it just isnt

in fact it auto backs up folders and files you set up the same as VM and it allows remote access easy

Caspar · 07-04-2009, 10:43

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

no dude I meant it was a surprise that you were because I knwo you dont

missunderstanding there

Adrive gives you 5 times the storage ok you have to manually do it but I would not want a service running without my say so anyway.

Live Mesh is far more versatile I do not understand why you think V Stuff is better it just isnt

in fact it auto backs up folders and files you set up the same as VM and it allows remote access easy

Mesh was a lot easier to setup, within minutes and is alot more intuitive....the only issue is that you can't backup network drives or NAS drives.

blackthorn · 07-04-2009, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Caspar

Vstuff - I'm really having issues with, I select the backup folders, but nothing backups up. I then read the instructions properly so turn on the file types

My selected pictures backup fine, but then stop half way through, and I can't find a way to restart it.

Also Vstuff has decided to backup my internet explorer cookies!?!!? They're not even selected, so god knows how it decided to backup 'em up!

ok, getting serious... I think some will like this service and the backup tool, but from my perspective with a lifetime of IT expereince and running corporate IT backup and DR procedures I think it's highly un-intuitive and I simply can't fathom how to use it! on the edge of giving up!

Symantec Backup Exec is bloody easier to use!

Give up ! I wish I could give up I cant find anyway to stop it once its started on the backup

Caspar · 07-04-2009, 11:11

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Originally Posted by blackthorn

Give up ! I wish I could give up I cant find anyway to stop it once its started on the backup

Uninstall it

That'll work!

tbh, I think I already have given up on using it as a backup solution, it's unholy crap!

I'm only interested now to get the free 25prints pm. Have a desognated directory to online print and then move pictures into that each month to print online.

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Originally Posted by Caspar

Uninstall it

That'll work!

tbh, I think I already have given up on using it as a backup solution, it's unholy crap!

I'm only interested now to get the free 25prints pm. Have a desognated directory to online print and then move pictures into that each month to print online.

ok what a con!

I've uploaded a few pics that I want to print using my 25 FREE prints per month allowance.

Once you've chosen the pictures you're presented witt the below:

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You have selected 9 photos to be sent to our print partner Snapfish.

Here's what to do next:

Have your credit card details at the ready to register. Don't worry Snapfish won't charge you anything without your consent.
Your postage and packaging is free for your first 3 print orders.
After that, you'll only pay for the delivery of your free prints. Plus, anything else you decide to order, like gifts with your prints on them.
Let us know which address you'd like them delivered to.
Once you've confirmed your order Snapfish will print and deliver them straight to your door.

So I have to supply credit card details for a free service!?!

and then you're told only P&P "3 print orders" are free?!?!? I thought it was 25 per month.

It's a con, "free 25 per month", so you take the time to register and the whole effort to then find out you have to pay something! By this time, you want to do it so are now reluctant to not proceed! Tricky twitters!

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Order Photo Prints - It's absolutely free!

no it's not!

MikeyB · 07-04-2009, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Caspar

and then you're told only P&P "3 print orders" are free?!?!? I thought it was 25 per month.

It's a con, "free 25 per month", so you take the time to register and the whole effort to then find out you have to pay something! By this time, you want to do it so are now reluctant to not proceed! Tricky twitters!

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no it's not!

You DO get 25 free prints every month, and it does say about the P&P on every page on the V Stuff website:
http://www.virginmedia.com/myvirginm...find-out-more/

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**Free prints available for 12 months following activation of V Stuff. Postage and packaging for the first three free print orders is free of charge. Free prints must be used within the month, and can't be carried over. See full terms and conditions here

AndyCambs · 07-04-2009, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Then its simple use them instead, No one is forcing you to use this.

Please show me the others like this that are free and i can see for myself.

How typical that Virgin try to give us something extra and at no additional cost and all everyone can do is pull it apart. I honestly don't know why they bother.

Some people on this forum wouldn't be happy with free HD, and free 50MB connections...

Ignitionnet · 07-04-2009, 13:16

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

I do not think anyone has to worry to much about STM . As a little test ive been uploading some photographs 600 meg in total. Started before 5pm and its still only uploaded 500 meg so I am guessing they cannot handle full upload speed even from a 20 meg user let alone a 50

That's odd, a 50Mbit user shifted 24GB by 3PM apparently, assuming that upload was started at bang on midnight this would have been an equivalent transfer rate of about 4Mbit. Pretty good considering you'd imagine 24GB of files to be largely already compressed music and video which render the built in compression of the client at best pretty much ineffective.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

None of it as good as Vstuff and would still depend on your upload, which for me is fine being on 50 meg.

Plus i would not trust anything from Micro$oft it will plainly be beta quality just like there main OS.

Plus you know me better than to say i always defend VM because that's wrong i don't

http://www.adrive.com/ seems pretty good.

If you consider 1.75Mbit to be a 'fine' upload that's your prerogative.

So you trust http://www.steek.com/ over MS - also your prerogative.

What VM can do is offer a small reduction on the bill in return for foregoing access to this stuff so that customers aren't paying for things they aren't using.

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Originally Posted by AndyCambs

Some people on this forum wouldn't be happy with free HD, and free 50MB connections...

What's worse - the complainer or the person complaining about the complainers? You're happy, some people aren't. That's life.

Ignitionnet · 07-04-2009, 13:35

I have tried this software - the performance is not great at all - upload bounced between 128kbps and 540kbps according to an upload meter. Please note the scale of the graph.

07-04-2009, 13:58

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Originally Posted by AndyCambs

Some people on this forum wouldn't be happy with free HD, and free 50MB connections...

as I said I run a test to see for myself if it was any results and I posted the resutls of that test thats all

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

I have tried this software - the performance is not great at all - upload bounced between 128kbps and 540kbps according to an upload meter. Please note the scale of the graph.

pretty much matches my tests

Caspar · 07-04-2009, 14:32

I ranted on earlier in this thread about how free isn't free, that you only get 3 orders of prints for free then you have to start paying P&P, which is 99p based only only 25 prints per job. This isn't too bad, photo printing is not something I do, mainly out of laziness!....but this process isn't too bad and can enrich your life somewhat!

the other products that snapfish.com offer look ok too and may buy at somepoint (ahha got you mr consumer, have some cross-selling!

...yeah w/e loser!)

Anyway, I mentioned above that you need to supply your credit card details, even though I'm not going to be charged anything at least for the first3 orders. Well the VM pages are wrong, I've not been asked for card details

I think this bogus disclaimer should be removed as it does really put you off!

I've now ordered my batch of free 25 prints, saving an apparant £2.25. I await to see the quality.

VStuff is still crap!

07-04-2009, 16:35

snapfish is very good ive had poster prints mugs all sorts off them. They were given the best of award for this type of process by the Which magazine . Jessops use them and others do also they I believe are a HP subsidary

KenK · 07-04-2009, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

What VM can do is offer a small reduction on the bill in return for foregoing access to this stuff so that customers aren't paying for things they aren't using.

Now, there's a thought!

Peter_ · 07-04-2009, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

What VM can do is offer a small reduction on the bill in return for foregoing access to this stuff so that customers aren't paying for things they aren't using.

That would never happen as it is a free service so no costs involved in the same way that the email service is free and provided as part of the service but with no requirement that you actually use them.