U.S President: Donald Trump

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Mr K, has form when it comes to prejudices of Brexiteers, he has certainly lambasted them for his perceived views of them having no education, only the other day, he claimed they were living in cloud cuckoo land, but this is not the thread to keep going on about what Mr K's wrongful views are.

Been through this before Mick. The 'no education' was nothing I said, I linked to a Telegraph article showing the demographics of how people voted in the referendum. Those that had higher education levels tended to vote for Remain, it's a fact, not an insult, and doesn't make anyone's vote less valid. However think we're getting away from the thread subject - the Second Coming of he that cannot do any wrong...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Been through this before Mick. The 'no education' was nothing I said, I linked to a Telegraph article showing the demographics of how people voted in the referendum. Those that had higher education levels tended to vote for Remain, it's a fact, not an insult, and doesn't make anyone's vote less valid. However think we're getting away from the thread subject - the Second Coming of he that cannot do any wrong...

and you lets not forget your vote

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i don't feel swivel eyed loony is a compliment

That's OK though, because as we all know, anyone who wants to leave the EU must be crazy.

[Mr K]

'Swivel eyed loon' is not a phrase I've used towards anyone here. May have used it to describe Farage/UKIP, but just borrowed it from that nice bloke - 'Call me Dave' Cameron.

Anyway back to his holyness, the Donald....

[1andrew1]

This is a fascinating story which sounds convincing, albeit from a source dropped by Wikipedia's editors

Mail on Sunday
Revealed: Tony Blair's secret White House summit as he launches astonishing bid to work for Donald Trump... as his Middle East peace envoy
Blair attended a secret meeting at the White House to discuss working for Trump
Held talks with Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner this week
The former PM and Kushner have met three times in secret since September
Could setback Theresa May’s hopes of forging ‘special relationship’ with Trump.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4aP18bYv0

[adzii_nufc]

Where's the convincing part? Tony Blair, Middle East and peace all in the same article. Thats a whole new level of astonishing for the Daily Mail. Just a few weeks ago he'd apparently had super secret meetings with King Boris. Exclusive next week is that he's been advising Kim Jong un on how not to get sanctioned for war crimes.

Blair needs scrapping off the guy really is delusional.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Where's the convincing part? Tony Blair, Middle East and peace all in the same article. Thats a whole new level of astonishing for the Daily Mail. Just a few weeks ago he'd apparently had super secret meetings with King Boris. Exclusive next week is that he's been advising Kim Jong un on how not to get sanctioned for war crimes.

And it's been denied by Tony Blair

Sky News
Tony Blair rejects Trump peace envoy claims
A spokesman for the former prime minister says "no discussions" had taken place about taking any role for the President.

http://news.sky.com/story/is-tony-bl...trump-10791137

Meanwhile. pressures mounts for Trump to show his evidence for the phone-tapping allegations with Republican Senator Ben Sasse saying Mr Trump's comments were "serious" and he should explain the alleged wire-tapping and how he came to know about it.

As someone (RED) commented about it on the FT "These seem to be the actions of flailing and desperate man; Trump would appear to be under extreme pressure to deflect the growing revelatory drum beat of Russian complicity and collaboration. But, Trump’s strategy to deflect, deceive, and frame the narrative through Twitter seems to be backfiring making him appear weak and feckless; blasting out one unsubstantiated allegation or bombastic statement after the other just makes him look like a fool with a tool."

[papa smurf]

[QUOTE=1andrew1;35888619]This is a fascinating story which sounds convincing, albeit from a source dropped by Wikipedia's editors



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The making of a Wiki-Lie: Chilling story of one twisted oddball and a handful of anonymous activists who appointed themselves as censors to promote their own warped agenda on a website that's a byword for inaccuracy

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4aRV6B0Jp
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

And it's been denied by Tony Blair

http://news.sky.com/story/is-tony-bl...trump-10791137

Meanwhile. pressures mounts for Trump to show his evidence for the phone-tapping allegations with Republican Senator Ben Sasse saying Mr Trump's comments were "serious" and he should explain the alleged wire-tapping and how he came to know about it.

As someone (RED) commented about it on the FT "These seem to be the actions of flailing and desperate man; Trump would appear to be under extreme pressure to deflect the growing revelatory drum beat of Russian complicity and collaboration. But, Trump’s strategy to deflect, deceive, and frame the narrative through Twitter seems to be backfiring making him appear weak and feckless; blasting out one unsubstantiated allegation or bombastic statement after the other just makes him look like a fool with a tool."

Trump lies far more than he tells the truth according to this - http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Trump lies far more than he tells the truth according to this - http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Trump seemed to take one step forward in his speech to Congress but he's now taken two steps back. I think he has over-stepped the mark on his latest allegation.

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Trump lies far more than he tells the truth according to this - http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Wonderful, you're sourcing a leftie, liberal-biased website. Think I'll ignore it then.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think he has over-stepped the mark on his latest allegation.

I don't.

[nidave]

Originally Posted by Mick

Well yes, I remember him saying that now so yes you are right, and I do actually agree with that stance.

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Personal email account use is/was allowed under Indiana law so I doubt it.

You are right however they are required to keep a copy on the government servers

Indiana law requires all records dealing with state business to be retained and available for public information requests. Emails exchanged on state accounts are captured on state servers, which can be searched in response to such requests. But any emails Pence sent from his AOL account to another private account likely would have been hidden from public record searches unless he took steps to make them available.
Indiana Public Access Counselor Luke Britt, who was appointed by Pence in 2013, said he advises state officials to copy or forward their emails involving state business to their government accounts to ensure the record is preserved on state servers.
But there is no indication that Pence took any such steps to preserve his AOL emails until he was leaving the governor's office.
When public officials fail to retain their private-account emails pertaining to public business, "they're running the risk of violating the law,” Britt said. “A good steward of those messages and best practice is going to dictate they preserve those."
All of the emails provided to IndyStar, part of the USA TODAY Network, were ones captured on state servers.
The emails were obtained after a series of public records requests that the Pence administration did not fulfill for nearly four months before Pence left office.
The administration of Pence’s successor, Gov. Eric Holcomb, released 29 pages of emails late this past week. But it withheld others, saying they are deliberative or advisory, confidential under rules adopted by the Indiana Supreme Court or the work product of an attorney.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2...it-got-hacked/

Originally Posted by Mick

Wonderful, you're sourcing a leftie, liberal-biased website. Think I'll ignore it then.

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I don't.

Mick, you keep quoting this leftie crap. If you are so sure he is gods gift to politics, go through that list and post a link which point out his lies are actually true.

Also - what do you think of his latest allegations regarding Obama and the tapping tweet?

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Mick, you keep quoting this leftie crap. If you are so sure he is gods gift to politics, go through that list and post a link which point out his lies are actually true.

I never said he was gods gift, I just like to point out how the hysteria on Trump is pathetically over the top.

And for the record, Politifact is left leaning:-

http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/16/...conservatives/

All by himself, Trump has almost half of all the “Pants on Fire” ratings from the articles we scraped. Even outside of Trump, PolitiFact seems to assign this rating particularly unevenly. During the 2012 election season, PolitiFact assigned Mitt Romney 19 “Pants on Fire” ratings. For comparison, for every single Democrat combined from 2007-2016 the “Pants on Fire” rating was only assigned 25 times.

This seems to indicate Romney wasn’t just a liar, but an insane, raving liar, spewing malicious deceit at every possible opportunity. In the mere two years he was in the spotlight as a Republican presidential nominee, Romney somehow managed to rival the falsehoods told by the entire party of Democrats over the course of a decade. Or it is possible that PolitiFact has a slant in their coverage.

Don't really see a point on websites which rate certain stories 'Mostly false/True. It's either true or bloody false, or just one sided.

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Originally Posted by nidave

You are right however they are required to keep a copy on the government servers


https://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2...it-got-hacked/

From what I read, I believe he made those emails available under the following rule that you quoted:

Indiana law requires all records dealing with state business to be retained and available for public information requests.