Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock

Richard, with all due respect - why should they?

You have alleged, in the past, that you have "high level" contacts in the VM management structure, and threatened to report some posters because you believed their behaviours were inappropriate - why should they now tell you things that, if known by VM, could weaken the Union's case.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Richard Coulter

It has been brought to my attention that the CWU intend to take legal action against Adecco and Virgin Media for not following the correct procedure in decommissioning Albert Dock.

Can anyone enlighten me with anything that they know about this?

I can perfectly understand that some people may wish to do this by PM

I am sure members of the CWU will make the union aware of this thread so they are aware that questions are being asked.

As a member of staff it would be highly inappropriate of me to pass on information relating to my employer to someone on a forum in open thread or via PM, and i am sure other staff members will be aware of the risk of doing that as well

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Richard, with all due respect - why should they?

You have alleged, in the past, that you have "high level" contacts in the VM management structure, and threatened to report some posters because you believed their behaviours were inappropriate - why should they now tell you things that, if known by VM, could weaken the Union's case.

[Peter_]

How stupid do you think ex employees are and do remember it is mainly ex employees who this issue affects so do please go and ask your alleged high ranking buddies all about it as they must be well aware of what is happening if they ever existed.

One thing this new question proves is that you are just a bluff merchant as we knew all along who is all huff and no puff.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Richard, with all due respect - why should they?

You have alleged, in the past, that you have "high level" contacts in the VM management structure, and threatened to report some posters because you believed their behaviours were inappropriate - why should they now tell you things that, if known by VM, could weaken the Union's case.

This is being asked out of a personal interest in contemporary trade unionist issues. I am broadly in favour of responsible trade unionism. Any information received will not be disclosed to a third party without prior permission.

Originally Posted by Peter_

How stupid do you think ex employees are and do remember it is mainly ex employees who this issue affects so do please go and ask your alleged high ranking buddies all about it as they must be well aware of what is happening if they ever existed.

One thing this new question proves is that you are just a bluff merchant as we knew all along who is all huff and no puff.

I can confirm that any previously mentioned contacts that I have within VM are not involved with this issue.

You said that you had put me on ignore after your personal attacks on me some time ago

Originally Posted by Sirius

I am sure members of the CWU will make the union aware of this thread so they are aware that questions are being asked.

As a member of staff it would be highly inappropriate of me to pass on information relating to my employer to someone on a forum in open thread or via PM, and i am sure other staff members will be aware of the risk of doing that as well

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John East is fully aware of this thread and has provided me with some information about this, so there is no need for thinly veiled accusations of subterfuge

You also said that you had put me on ignore after your personal attacks on me some time ago

Those who wish to be helpful, or wish to speak to me about anything else, can contact me via PM in the knowledge that anything they say will be treated with complete confidence and discretion if that is what they wish

[Russ]

Richard due to your behaviour and attitude on here in the past towards VM employees, none of them trust you anymore and I'm astonished that you would think otherwise.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This is being asked out of a personal interest in contemporary trade unionist issues. I am broadly in favour of responsible trade unionism. Any information received will not be disclosed to a third party without prior permission.



I can confirm that any previously mentioned contacts that I have within VM are not involved with this issue.

You said that you had put me on ignore after your personal attacks on me some time ago



John East is fully aware of this thread and has provided me with some information about this, so there is no need for thinly veiled accusations of subterfuge

You also said that you had put me on ignore after your personal attacks on me some time ago

Those who wish to be helpful, or wish to speak to me about anything else, can contact me via PM in the knowledge that anything they say will be treated with complete confidence and discretion if that is what they wish

Lets put it this way if you have contact with John East which somehow I doubt as you obviously do not have a clue about what the union is doing and any high ranking contacts would have knowledge of what is happening as it will be of great concern to them monetary and reputation wise.

Ask your now union friend John East and your high ranking friends within the company because as they are friends they will obviously tell you all you know, I wonder how many posts you had to trawl through to find the name John East.

You are just trying to get some facts that you know nothing about as this thread proves that you do not have these purported contacts available to your self and it is purely the ravings of fantasy nothing more.

I doubt anyone would be gullible enough to provide you with any information just for you try and stir things up especially as I am the only member on here that the closure affected do you think for one second that I will let you be privy to information that could in any way affect our case.

Being on ignore does not prevent anyone reading your posts by the way and thank you for the nice green item much appreciated.

I will post the outcome later in the year unless your friend John East tells you first.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Peter_

Lets put it this way if you have contact with John East which somehow I doubt as you obviously do not have a clue about what the union is doing and any high ranking contacts would have knowledge of what is happening as it will be of great concern to them monetary and reputation wise.

Ask your now union friend John East and your high ranking friends within the company because as they are friends they will obviously tell you all you know, I wonder how many posts you had to trawl through to find the name John East.

You are just trying to get some facts that you know nothing about as this thread proves that you do not have these purported contacts available to your self and it is purely the ravings of fantasy nothing more.

I doubt anyone would be gullible enough to provide you with any information just for you try and stir things up especially as I am the only member on here that the closure affected do you think for one second that I will let you be privy to information that could in any way affect our case.

Being on ignore does not prevent anyone reading your posts by the way and thank you for the nice green item much appreciated.

I will post the outcome later in the year unless your friend John East tells you first.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Peter_

Lets put it this way if you have contact with John East which somehow I doubt as you obviously do not have a clue about what the union is doing and any high ranking contacts would have knowledge of what is happening as it will be of great concern to them monetary and reputation wise.

Ask your now union friend John East and your high ranking friends within the company because as they are friends they will obviously tell you all you know, I wonder how many posts you had to trawl through to find the name John East.

You are just trying to get some facts that you know nothing about as this thread proves that you do not have these purported contacts available to your self and it is purely the ravings of fantasy nothing more.

I doubt anyone would be gullible enough to provide you with any information just for you try and stir things up especially as I am the only member on here that the closure affected do you think for one second that I will let you be privy to information that could in any way affect our case.

Being on ignore does not prevent anyone reading your posts by the way and thank you for the nice green item much appreciated.

I will post the outcome later in the year unless your friend John East tells you first.

Wow, it's difficult to know where to start with all the assumptions and overall snide tone.

Assumptions are rarely true and never helpful. Being bitter about the past will not help your career.

Still, we can expect little more from someone who sees nothing wrong and is unrepentant about their sexist remarks and racist views of the people of Wales.

I can confirm that I have had direct contact with John East regarding the subject under discussion. I have no interest in whether you believe this or not.

I can also confirm that nobody by the name of "Peter" was registered as a member of the CWU when Albert Dock was open.

You were not the only "member" affected by the closure.

As you will be aware, some ex Albert Dock staff were head hunted.

You stated that you had "decided against going down that route" (probably the most oxymoronic statement I have ever come across!)

Some of those that were headhunted WERE actual CWU members and are on here.

It is now obvious that you have not put me on ignore as you stated you had previously. The only reason I can think of for this, is that you enjoy causing disruption on the forum.

It is not clear what you mean by "the nice green item". If you wish to say something, please don't talk in riddles, as this unhelpful.

It is not me that seeks to stir things up, it is actually yourself and your sidekick who seems to follow you round the boards clapping and smiling after everything you say in a puerile attempt to cause further bad feeling.

I also respectfully refer you to a previous thread where one of the owners of this forum told you that, if you had an axe to grind, you should keep it away from Cableforum.

It is time that the pair of you acted your age instead of your shoe size.

Back on topic...

If anybody has anything constructive to contribute, please don't let others put you off posting in public, by PM or email, as this is exactly their aim

Any help thus far that has been given by people with this research is appreciated and their privacy, as was promised, will be respected in full.

Best wishes to all :-)

Richard, you are possibly the most deluded person I have ever seen posting on this forum.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I can confirm that I have had direct contact with John East regarding the subject under discussion. I have no interest in whether you believe this or not.

Some how I doubt that otherwise you would not be digging for information on here would you as he would have told you all that you need to know.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I can also confirm that nobody by the name of "Peter" was registered as a member of the CWU when Albert Dock was open.

Clueless as usual I bet you think the was only one Peter employed at the Albert Dock, words fail me over your crass ignorance.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You were not the only "member" affected by the closure.

The are no other members of this forum who were affected by the closure so again that shows how little you know about the membership of this forum as I would know anyone that was a member here from the Albert Dock.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As you will be aware, some ex Albert Dock staff were head hunted.

No one was headhunted as they chose to go and if you knew who went and how good an agent they were then you would not have assumed they were headhunted, anyone could have had a job down there as that was part of the closure agreement.


The more knowledgeable members of staff either went to other similar companies locally for a much higher salary or they were offered jobs within the company either in Knowsley or Wythenshawe.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Chris

Richard, you are possibly the most deluded person I have ever seen posting on this forum.

More than telfordcable?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Chris

Richard, you are possibly the most deluded person I have ever seen posting on this forum.

You need to expand on this, or your comment is meaningless.

Originally Posted by Peter_

Some how I doubt that otherwise you would not be digging for information on here would you as he would have told you all that you need to know.

Clueless as usual I bet you think the was only one Peter employed at the Albert Dock, words fail me over your crass ignorance.

The are no other members of this forum who were affected by the closure so again that shows how little you know about the membership of this forum as I would know anyone that was a member here from the Albert Dock.

No one was headhunted as they chose to go and if you knew who went and how good an agent they were then you would not have assumed they were headhunted, anyone could have had a job down there as that was part of the closure agreement.

The more knowledgeable members of staff either went to other similar companies locally for a much higher salary or they were offered jobs within the company either in Knowsley or Wythenshawe.

The information about you was provided by John East. He stated that no member of the CWU based at Albert Dock was called "Peter".

For the record, are you accusing John East of lying to me?

As previously explained, and acknowledged by yourself earlier in the thread on more than one occasion, some members of staff were headhunted and some are also members of this forum.

Why you think you should automatically be made aware of the private business of your former colleagues is as conceited as it is bizarre.

You need to make your mind up. Either I know nothing and am looking for basic information, or, I am trying to obtain further information to weaken the unions' case as I am able to do this/would want to do this through my contacts. Which is it?*

*If the truth be known, both of your assumptions are incorrect.

I don't believe that you were really suited to working for Virgin Media, so I don't understand your continued bitterness as things seem to have worked out to the benefit of both parties.

Why don't you ask John East the questions you raised above?

It has been brought to my attention that the CWU intend to take legal action against Adecco and Virgin Media for not following the correct procedure in decommissioning Albert Dock.

Can anyone enlighten me with anything that they know about this?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

You need to expand on this, or your comment is meaningless..

I have watched your behaviour towards VM employees who you felt gave you less respect than you deserved, on this forum and DigitalSpy, over many years. I have seen the response of many VM employees towards you on that forum and this one and read their opinions on the subject (as I recall, your brief appointment as a 'forum host' at DigitalSpy went down like a lead balloon).

For you to hope or expect any VM employee to take you into their personal confidence would, in my opinion, require such a complete lack of awareness of how others have reacted towards you in the past, as to be delusional.

It seems to me that either you have significant management contacts in VM, and think nothing of using them to try to put pressure on VM staff who frequent this forum (and DigitalSpy), or you don't, in which case who knows what strange game you're playing. Either way, I can't think of one single reason why any employee of VM (or any other individual, for that matter) should place their trust or confidence in an anonymous poster on an internet forum.

Does that expand it sufficiently for you?

[Sirius]

If there is a case ongoing between the Union and Virginmedia and if that case ends up with the lawyers, then surely having a thread open here could prejudice that case if the wrong information is posted or is commented on.