01-12-2012, 19:50
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Re: Superhub 2
SH2?
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01-12-2012, 19:53
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Re: Superhub 2
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I think their working towards change but I also think they need help.
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What help would actually be effective? From whom would that help come?
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01-12-2012, 20:02
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Re: Superhub 2
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What help would actually be effective? From whom would that help come?
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common sense and all i've said already or close to it. me.
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01-12-2012, 20:48
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Re: Superhub 2
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common sense and all i've said already or close to it. me.
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How are you gonna make VM change their spots, TH?
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01-12-2012, 21:01
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Re: Superhub 2
i've done it before. im sure i could do it again. if anything id have to change my spots for it to be a success
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01-12-2012, 21:27
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Re: Superhub 2
I can see them using the original Superhub as the lower tier device for 30-60 and the new one as the device delivered with the 'premium' tiers. Just like they did with the Hub/Superhub originally. Even if its just to help ship the remaining stock.
The plan of only having one device is probably a good one, but it did not survive the battlefield and is made increasingly less relevant if a second version of the Superhub comes out only a few years after the Superhub itself graced our connections.
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01-12-2012, 22:02
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Re: Superhub 2
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Originally Posted by Skie
I can see them using the original Superhub as the lower tier device for 30-60 and the new one as the device delivered with the 'premium' tiers. Just like they did with the Hub/Superhub originally. Even if its just to help ship the remaining stock.
[SEPH]: That's not their style. Skie. Peter (ex-VM) has told you all how it'll work
The plan of only having one device is probably a good one, but it did not survive the battlefield and is made increasingly less relevant if a second version of the Superhub comes out only a few years after the Superhub itself graced our connections.
[SEPH]: I don't see that as logical, I'm afraid. A laptop is fairly obsolete after three years as more powerful chipsets emerge. At minimum the SH2 is analagous. Plus lets'hope VM have learned the lessons regarding the lame SH1
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01-12-2012, 22:07
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Re: Superhub 2
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[SEPH]: That's not their style. Skie. Peter (ex-VM) has told you all how it'll work
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It's not unprecedented. When the VMNG300 was released it was kept for the tiers that needed it only - the other tiers continued with the older D2 modems
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01-12-2012, 22:13
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That was a differnet DOCSIS scenario from today's, Ben.
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01-12-2012, 22:14
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Re: Superhub 2
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That was a differnet DOCSIS scenario from today's, Ben.
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True, but they also did it with the Wireless routers for a time - the lower tiers got a Wireless G router, the higher ones Wireless N
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01-12-2012, 22:15
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Again, SH1/SH2 - wireless N. Plus then the lower tiers were not DOCSIS 3.
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01-12-2012, 22:18
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Re: Superhub 2
SH1 non simultaneous band functioning. SH2 simultaneous band functioning.
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01-12-2012, 22:19
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Re: Superhub 2
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Again, SH1/SH2 - wireless N. Plus then the lower tiers were not DOCSIS 3.
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Ok then, the Hub and SuperHub were both Wireless N and post the D3 network being available, and were still run side by side based on tier.
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01-12-2012, 22:49
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Now, to all intents and purposes, it's a D3 world. What we're all looking for in your responses is an actual clue as to what VM would do if it differs from Peter's view.
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01-12-2012, 22:54
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Re: Superhub 2
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Now, to all intents and purposes, it's a D3 world. What we're all looking for in your responses is an actual clue as to what VM would do if it differs from Peter's view.
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To be honest I have no idea what the plan is, but as I have no idea, I'm not making assumptions
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