Government to monitor Internet Use

[mertle]

see terresa may got herself in twist trying justify snoop technology. More gaffs she does less chance it will be implemented.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...eresa-May.html

[Fawkes]

Originally Posted by mertle

see terresa may got herself in twist trying justify snoop technology. More gaffs she does less chance it will be implemented.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...eresa-May.html

You see mertle, this is why it's important to check the facts first. A leason for us all there, not just Theresa.

[Tezcatlipoca]

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...#comment-27957

FOI request update:

Unhappy with the Home Office's alleged inability to find any trace of my original request, I contacted WhatDoTheyKnow.com, and was told that "our email logs show that the original request message on 3rd April was accepted by the Home Office's advertised email servers that day".

As such, I have got back to the Home Office, and again requested an internal review, as I believe that my original request was received and therefore the Home Office has missed the original deadline required by law.

Originally Posted by Matt D

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...#comment-27957

FOI request update:

Unhappy with the Home Office's alleged inability to find any trace of my original request, I contacted WhatDoTheyKnow.com, and was told that "our email logs show that the original request message on 3rd April was accepted by the Home Office's advertised email servers that day".

As such, I have got back to the Home Office, and again requested an internal review, as I believe that my original request was received and therefore the Home Office has missed the original deadline required by law.

You keep banging away Matt good on ya
but never forget that you are only a member of the public and therefore have no right to know what your government is doing

FOI request update:

Unhappy with the Home Office's alleged inability to find any trace of my original request, I contacted WhatDoTheyKnow.com, and was told that "our email logs show that the original request message on 3rd April was accepted by the Home Office's advertised email servers that day".

As such, I have got back to the Home Office, and again requested an internal review, as I believe that my original request was received and therefore the Home Office has missed the original deadline required by law.

Keep going Matt

[Tezcatlipoca]

The Home Office got back to me on the 17th, sticking with the "we didn't receive it" line.

I then received a final reply today, refusing my FOI request due to section 12 (cost). They said I could revise my request to bring it under the cost limit, & resubmit it, but that some of it (I'd assume most ) may then be refused under section 40 (personal information) instead. This amuses me, as two main reasons I reject the Home Office's own snooping proposals are of course personal information and cost...

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...ncoming-284523

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...e%20Letter.pdf

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...etter.pdf.html

[Chrysalis]

Monitoring email isnt practical.

Most likely they will get the major isps to tow the line VM, BT etc. For them it will incredibly expensive to do, as there is huge volumes of email on the net and even only just logging headers for a few days takes a lot of resources, so what they would have to do for this legislation would be enormous cost. Probably paid for by some corp tax cuts.

However this is incredibly easy to evade, just host email overseas and in case broadband isp's try to sniff email ports then access email using encryption job done. Its also probable small email providers in the uk wont even bother with this. There is 100s of email providers in a very saturated market.

[mertle]

found this on my googling. More sinister this.

http://www.euractiv.com/infosociety/...ns-news-512833

So basically there setting up E-ID electronic id system which then can track transactions.

therefore once E-ID in place they can facilitate monitoring.

So effectivaly its homeland security for internet.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Awesome. I've been name-checked by Hugh Muir in The Guardian regarding my FOI request for Theresa May's Internet History: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...jeremy-heywood

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Awesome. I've been name-checked by Hugh Muir in The Guardian regarding my FOI request for Theresa May's Internet History: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...jeremy-heywood

Well done, Dodd

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Awesome. I've been name-checked by Hugh Muir in The Guardian regarding my FOI request for Theresa May's Internet History: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...jeremy-heywood

Remember the old rule related to all things MP.

Whats yours is mine but whats mine is my own. That relates to anything they do including having you personal info but you cannot have there's

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Kosh

And so it begins...

Online privacy: Home Office to write blank cheque for 'snoopers' charter'

Originally Posted by The Grauniad

The government is to offer a blank cheque to internet and phone firms that will be required to track everyone's email, Twitter, Facebook and other internet use under legislation to be published on Thursday.

The Home Office has confirmed it will foot the bill, thought to run into tens and possibly hundreds of millions, for collecting and storing the extra social media and web browsing records needed to implement the scheme, which critics have dubbed an "online snooper's charter".

Ministers did not put a figure on the cost of the new scheme but said it would be far less than the £2bn price tag estimated when Labour put forward a web-tracking scheme based on a central Home Office database in 2006.

The Liberal Democrats are expected to scale back their criticism of the legislation, which is to be published in draft form on Thursday, after Nick Clegg's intervention secured a series of safeguards, including a scrutiny inquiry by MPs and peers that will report by the end of November.

But the measure is expected to continue to attract fierce criticism from libertarian Conservatives, led by the former shadow home secretary David Davis, who this week attacked it again, calling it "expensive, unnecessary and a huge invasion of everyone's privacy".

An online petition run by the campaign group 38 degrees has already attracted more than 163,000 signatures under the slogan: "Our civil liberties have taken a battering in recent years from politicians of all backgrounds. Now it's time to for us to push back."

(snip)

Ah, so Cleggy has secured safeguards has he? I feel so reassured...


David Davis continues to be the only Tory MP I have any real respect for. I wish he was Home Secretary instead of Theresa May.

I told you the Liberal Democrats will fold and give in. All that talk they gave is for show, they intended to give in right away!

[Sirius]

I can see a massive increase in the sales of VPN,s

Originally Posted by Sirius

I can see a massive increase in the sales of VPN,s

Yes mate, I'm looking in to that