U.S President: Donald Trump
30-11-2017, 21:23
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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By the way I don't call what Trump said 'slagging May off'. He told her to concentrate on UK affairs and not to worry about the US's.
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Well he brought her into it. I doubt she was keen for him to drag her into this story but when he retweeted what he did she had to respond. If he had deleted the Tweets she could have had an easy out but he didn't.
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I think what we can ALL agree on is that this is, one way or another, a totally different kettle of fish U.S President, whether people can stand him or not, he is different and he was technically elected on that premise.
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I suspect a good amount of Trump supporters do not like his tweets either to be honest. I believe they voted out for him not out of personal admiration but either desperation or a protest against a perceived elite who had forgotten about them.
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I have said many times, I do not get the hysteria in the media and the constant minute by minute scandals that he has done or not done. Some have been Fake News others are just direct attacks at his communication style.
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What some feel for Trump is what others feel for Clinton if that helps.
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Democratic Congressmen have already produced articles of impeachment against Trump, I think Al Green, has submitted his second one in the last few weeks. But other Democrats don't want to entertain the idea as of yet.
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I don't think the Democrats really want to impeach him. At the moment it probably suits them to keep him place and maybe hope a Republican challenges him the Primary.
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The Mid terms may produce some interesting results, GOP may keep it's current standing or it won't but there is scandals rocking both parties right now, sexual allegations etc.
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The Mid-Terms might not be as dramatic as people expect. It's a friendly set of seats for the Republicans.
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30-11-2017, 22:24
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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We are talking about the President and the Prime Minster here. Hardly normal for the President of the United States to slag off the PM via Twitter. But then it isn't normal for the President to retweet Britain First either.
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Or say we are doing fine, when more americans are killed by americans than by muslims.
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30-11-2017, 22:26
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
Yeah the 'we are doing fine' was weird anyway because May never said anything about the United States.
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30-11-2017, 22:49
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Yeah the 'we are doing fine' was weird anyway because May never said anything about the United States.
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Are they 'really doing fine' ? Gun massacre every other day, healthcare a shambles, massively divided country
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30-11-2017, 23:35
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Are they 'really doing fine' ? Gun massacre every other day, healthcare a shambles, massively divided country
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But it seems to be the type of capitalist utopia that some here openly drool over.
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01-12-2017, 00:00
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Are they 'really doing fine' ? Gun massacre every other day, healthcare a shambles, massively divided country
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Yes, but we are equally divided here, Mr K, as the brexit vote showed.
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01-12-2017, 05:42
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Are they 'really doing fine' ? Gun massacre every other day, healthcare a shambles, massively divided country
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And sadly being led by a narcissistic gold plated ignoramus Mr K.
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01-12-2017, 15:20
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42192080
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President Donald Trump's ex-national security adviser, Michael Flynn, has been charged with making a false statement to the FBI in January.
Mr Flynn was forced to resign the following month after misleading the White House about meeting the Russian ambassador before Mr Trump took office.
The charges were brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, as part of his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 US election.
Mr Flynn was due in court on Friday.
He was expected to plead guilty to one count of knowingly making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements", reports said...
...According to the charges faced by Michael Flynn, he is accused of:
- falsely telling FBI agents that on or about 29 December 2016 he did not ask Russia's then ambassador to the US, Sergei Kislyak, to "refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day"
- failing to recall that Mr Kislyak had later told him Russia was moderating its response to the sanctions as a result of his request
- falsely saying that on or about 22 December 2016 he did not ask Mr Kislyak to "delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution".
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01-12-2017, 16:00
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
Interestingly Flynn's appearance in court is down as a 'plea agreement'...Speculation that means he be snitching.
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01-12-2017, 16:15
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That’s all Meuller is trying to do, lean on these Aides to do deals for anything they can get, to get to Trump. This can only mean, the special Counsel has nothing solid on Trump as of yet.
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01-12-2017, 16:19
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Flynn has entered a Plea bargain and is cooperating with Meuller: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/micha...ry?id=50849354
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/936628560374071296
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Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians.
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01-12-2017, 17:06
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-fbi-pleading/
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Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI over his links to Russia and has agreed to share information about a "very senior" official.
As part of a plea deal, Mr Flynn has admitted that a senior member of Mr Trump's transition team directed him to make contact with Russian officials in December 2016.
The senior transition official at Mar- a-Lago directed Mr Flynn to contact the Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and Mr Flynn reported back to the official, a US court has heard.
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01-12-2017, 17:29
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
This is a bigger development even than when Papadopoulos was revealed to have been an informant (and we still don't know what Papadopoulos had collected).
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01-12-2017, 17:54
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Flynn has been charged with lying to the FBI, which surmounts to Perjury charges, which is federal crime and comes with a stiff sentence of 5 years. He is said to have lied during a meeting with the Russian Ambassador, after the election, in December 2016, this cannot be connected to any 'collusion' implications, to get Trump elected, if Trump is already elected.
The other thing to note he was a former Obama appointee, in which Obama warned Trump during the transition not to trust Flynn in any government role, but Trump being Trump, obviously ignored this advice.
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01-12-2017, 18:02
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
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Originally Posted by Damien
Well he brought her into it. I doubt she was keen for him to drag her into this story but when he retweeted what he did she had to respond. If he had deleted the Tweets she could have had an easy out but he didn't.
I suspect a good amount of Trump supporters do not like his tweets either to be honest. I believe they voted out for him not out of personal admiration but either desperation or a protest against a perceived elite who had forgotten about them.
What some feel for Trump is what others feel for Clinton if that helps.
I don't think the Democrats really want to impeach him. At the moment it probably suits them to keep him place and maybe hope a Republican challenges him the Primary.
The Mid-Terms might not be as dramatic as people expect. It's a friendly set of seats for the Republicans.
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I think we all by now know how he reacts. It's no longer a surprise or a big story really.
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