Online Safety Bill

Originally Posted by pip08456

This post on twitter (X) is hilarious and goes someway to explain the stupidity of the bill.

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/...20991188140135

That is just brilliant.

Originally Posted by Paul

That is just brilliant.

Scot Squad was brilliant … pretty sure the whole lot is still on iPlayer.

(He goes to check)

And it is: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...5fq/scot-squad

Well worth 22 hours of your time.

[pip08456]

The Scottish police are going to be busy.

Looks like complaints lodged under Scotland’s new “hate crime” law flooded in to overwhelmed police at rate of one every 90 seconds in first 48 hours of implementation. Expected to top 4,000 today in total so far. Is Scotland really such a cesspit of hate? Or is the new law just a Clype’s Charter for pathetic keyboard warriors?
First Minister Humza Yousaf pips JK Rowling in race to accumulate most complaints against an individual (talk about being hoist by your own petard!).
SNP ministers appear on radio/TV to explain how law works — and get it wrong.
Police say no action to be taken against Yousaf or Rowling. But who is being logged for so-called “non-crime hate incidents” remains a mystery. Police accused of making it up as they go along.
But this is not just your run-of-the-mill SNP shambles. This is an SNP-Labour-Green-LibDem shambles, the sort of cosy Scottish Left consensus that eschews proper scrutiny of new laws and results in bad laws being introduced.

Source: A.F.Neil.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by pip08456

The Scottish police are going to be busy.


Source: A.F.Neil.

I said last year that this was a charter for every person who have a grudge against someone or those that find offence about something because they think everyone else should be offended even if they are not. Every keyboard warrior in Scotland must be in the element.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I said last year that this was a charter for every person who have a grudge against someone or those that find offence about something because they think everyone else should be offended even if they are not. Every keyboard warrior in Scotland must be in the element.

Or those creepy weirdos that insist on having people corrected they must salivating at the prospect of koshing the unwary with this nonsense

[RichardCoulter]

BBC 6pm news said that teachers blame
the use of social media on mobile phones for a rise in male on female sexism. Boys have been said to have been making remarks about both the bodies & choice of clothing of girls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-68731795

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

BBC 6pm news said that teachers blame
the use of social media on mobile phones for a rise in male on female sexism. Boys have been said to have been making remarks about both the bodies & choice of clothing of girls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-68731795

Because prior to mobile phones no teenage boys ever commented on the sexual attractiveness or otherwise of the girls in the classroom.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

BBC 6pm news said that teachers blame
the use of social media on mobile phones for a rise in male on female sexism. Boys have been said to have been making remarks about both the bodies & choice of clothing of girls.

Yep, I blame that mobile phone I had back in the late 1970's

Seriously.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

Because prior to mobile phones no teenage boys ever commented on the
sexual attractiveness or otherwise of the girls in the classroom.

From what they are saying it's
excacerbated the behaviour & made it more extreme. Girls have been called sluts & on the news one teacher said "I'll put it politely, but one boy said that he wanted to have sex with me".

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These days 'boys watch "aggressive and violent pornography" and influencer content that "completely distorts their view of women".

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The increased amount of moderation thats now needed cannot be done by humans alone. Some words and innapropriate content can be removed and dealt with automatically, but sometimes it gets it wrong as it cannot understand the context of what's been posted.

Entrepreneur Sacha Haco saw a gap in the market and has set up a company to develop a product that can moderate using AI:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001xvk1

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

From what they are saying it's
excacerbated the behaviour & made it more extreme. Girls have been called sluts & on the news one teacher said "I'll put it politely, but one boy said that he wanted to have sex with me".

You must have led a very sheltered life at school.
That was common when I was at school, almost 50 years ago, I wonder what they blamed it on then ...

[peanut]

There is quite a bit of truth in what Richard says (I can't believe I'm agreeing with him).

Online porn which is mainly extreme or violent seems to be the norm and teenagers can and will accept it as a standard. The lines between 'sex' and 'love making' are now blurred due to the extreme content so that attitudes towards sex has now changed.

The correlation between watching online porn and sexual abuse is very high and they see it now as acceptable which is worrying.

It'll only get worse as children will be desensitized enough to want or need to copy what they see online which will only get worse as well.

[jfman]

It probably does, but they’re not watching it on Twitter, Facebook, etc. And they’re all (in most cases) clicking to confirm they are over 18, or watching it on sites that are offering content illegally (piracy) so already operating outside the law.

The Online Safety Act, and the latest moral panic, doesn’t change that.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by jfman

It probably does, but they’re not watching it on Twitter, Facebook, etc. And they’re all (in most cases) clicking to confirm they are over 18, or watching it on sites that are offering content illegally (piracy) so already operating outside the law.

The Online Safety Act, and the latest moral panic, doesn’t change that.

Very true, it makes a mockery of the online safety bill when you read this... (From the Guardian).. ( https://www.theguardian.com/society/...agers-addicted )

A government spokesperson said: “No child should be exposed to pornography online. These troubling findings illustrate why we’ve stepped in with our online safety bill to force websites to put in place robust measures, such as age verification, to stop under-18s accessing inappropriate and harmful material, such as pornography.”

It's like they just don't have a clue at all.

Obviously it's not just the underaged that are affected by online (porn) content either.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by peanut

Very true, it makes a mockery of the online safety bill when you read this... (From the Guardian).. ( https://www.theguardian.com/society/...agers-addicted )

It's like they just don't have a clue at all.

Obviously it's not just the underaged that are affected by online (porn) content either.

I’m convinced they do have a clue to the point they know it’ll be completely ineffective. However that’s not the point - as long as enough people think that it is (the curtain twitchers), and it provides an opportunity to “stand up to big tech” there might be enough political capital in it.

It’s also a good distraction from the causes and effects of actual problems in society.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

You must have led a very sheltered life at school.
That was common when I was at school, almost 50 years ago, I wonder what they blamed it on then ...

It was, but it's now gotten much worse and is more blatant.

As most boys go through puberty they will start to find the opposite sex sexually attractive, including some of their teachers. This would have been kept private & discreet, but the teacher on the news yesterday basically said that a boy had said to her that he wanted to **** her. We would never have dared say that 50 years ago.

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Originally Posted by peanut

There is quite a bit of truth in what Richard says (I can't believe I'm agreeing with him).

Online porn which is mainly extreme or violent seems to be the norm and teenagers can and will accept it as a standard. The lines between 'sex' and 'love making' are now blurred due to the extreme content so that attitudes towards sex has now changed.

The correlation between watching online porn and sexual abuse is very high and they see it now as acceptable which is worrying.

It'll only get worse as children will be desensitized enough to want or need to copy what they see online which will only get worse as well.

Exactly. One of the main problems is kids now having access to online porn, so Ofcom is currently looking at ways to try and prevent them accessing it.