Westminster Sexual Allegations

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by richard s

That would be the Tory's... no surprise there then.

no it's definitely labour

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no it's definitely labour

Still waiting for their names to come out eh. Odd how some people don't seem to be too concerned about this. Laura Kuenssberg has been on the receiving end of nasty lefty trolls who actually reckon she's defending the Tories.

I suspect this covers all flavours of ideology..and has little to do with sex but a lot about power.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I suspect this covers all flavours of ideology..and has little to do with sex but a lot about power.

That's clearly the case. The abuse of people who're vulnerable in some way (regardless of sex) by those who have power has been going on since civilisation began. The thing these people have in common is mindset and opportunity but some are clearly far far worse than others and we all need to remember that.

And now we have a Labour suspension:

abour has suspended Luton North MP Kelvin Hopkins after an allegation, believed to be of sexual harassment, was received by the party.
The party has not given any details of the nature of the claims but the BBC understands it relates to an incident first reported a couple of years ago.
Mr Hopkins has had the whip withdrawn while an investigation takes place.
A party spokesman said Labour "takes all such complaints extremely seriously and has robust procedures in place".
The backbencher - who was shadow culture secretary between July and October 2016 and has been Luton North MP for 20 years - could not be reached for comment.
Labour sources say a complaint of sexual harassment was made against Mr Hopkins a couple of years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41853430

The Tories really need to start suspending some of their MPs pending investigation along with all parties.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

The Tories really need to start suspending some of their MPs pending investigation along with all parties.

It's interesting. Theresa May was very much on the side of the victims originally and quite rightly so. The ruling party should be setting the moral high ground for the rest to follow but this is not happening. Does their slim majority mean that the party will be more reluctant to suspend MPs than the Labour Party?

[papa smurf]

it might be better if allegations are backed up by evidence before anyone is suspended or even named it's far too easy to bandy about false allegations if no one is asking for proof .

[Osem]

Or maybe they could do this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ded-party.html

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Or maybe they could do this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ded-party.html

an allegation is not proof

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

an allegation is not proof

Correct not much actual proof of anything yet but how can there be proof that someone slapped someone else's bum in a lift? God only knows how this will all be decided but that's why suspensions are in the offing right now not worse punishments.

Meanwhile it appears Corbyn new that a complaint had been made against Hopkins at the time he was promoted to the front bench.

Ms Etemadzadeh told the BBC she believed that the Labour leader's office had been contacted about the complaint "and it was ignored".
"I'm very disillusioned because just a few months later I realised that Jeremy Corbyn promoted Kelvin Hopkins to the shadow cabinet, despite the fact that the leader's office was aware of this and they refused to act and that made me feel very powerless and isolated and alone."
She said she had gone back to the party this week and raised it again but was told she would have to make a complaint through a formal procedure, via its National Executive Committee.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41857136 .

If he wasn't aware of the full nature of the complaint against Hopkins why didn't he find out before promoting him?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Correct not much actual proof of anything yet but how can there be proof that someone slapped someone else's bum in a lift? God only knows how this will all be decided but that's why suspensions are in the offing right now not worse punishments.

Meanwhile it appears Corbyn new that a complaint had been made against Hopkins at the time he was promoted to the front bench.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41857136 .

If he wasn't aware of the full nature of the complaint against Hopkins why didn't he find out before promoting him?

if memory serves jezza had a full blown rebellion on his hands the front bench was empty at one time or another

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

if memory serves jezza had a full blown rebellion on his hands the front bench was empty at one time or another

Oh yes, that's right. It suited him. That'll be those famous 'principles' in action again eh?...


Neither side has he monopoly on what's wrong has been done here so let's not pretend that Labour are somehow any better/more moral than anyone else.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Oh yes, that's right. It suited him. That'll be those famous 'principles' in action again eh?...


Neither side has he monopoly on what's wrong has been done here so let's not pretend that Labour are somehow any better/more moral than anyone else.

it was the best of a bad bunch he had to put bums on seats


haven't seen anything from the liberal demoncrats yet can't wait till that news breaks

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it was the best of a bad bunch he had to put bums on seats


haven't been anything from the liberal demoncrats yet can't wait till that news breaks

and the rest.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

and the rest.

yes it could be just the greens that come out squeaky clean unless she's been pinching her own bum